I don't often rant on forums but what a fucking scum bag. Initial reports suggest he lured police to an address by reporting a burglary then shot both un-armed female officers dead. One poor girl was planning her wedding.
Just watched the news report on this one, and yes string the b@@tard up! To have allegedly already killed 2 people and then lured those poor cops with a false burglary report is utterly despicable. I've no doubt our weak justice system will give him life with a no parole before date, but in cases like this it's not enough. I know there are people out there who disagree with the death penalty, and when there is uncertainty in a case then I'd agree, but this seems clear cut to me. And who is going to pay for him to live his life in jail, yup you and me.
In circumstances such as these, and in a case so clear cut as this, there has to be a case for bringing back the dealth penalty.
5 minutes in a cell with the officers family and a couple of baseball bats, that should do the trick!
I'd be interested to hear what you think a strong justice system would give, considering that you seem to be suggesting Life with no parole date for cases where there is some doubt over guilt.
Very Very sad day for this country, two lives snubbed out for no other reason than they were wearing the Police uniform and trying to make a difference to peoples lives. Young in service i'm sure they had so much ahead of them, so much to live for only for life to be taken away by someone who has chosen a selfish life of crime and hasn't got the mental capacity to fit in with anybody other than the criminal underworld. He killed a lad because he "disrespected" him, then when the lads father spoke out to the press and again "disrespected" him he went back and killed him to. Then, to lure two police officers to their deaths (it doesnt matter if they were male or female) words completely fail me. The whole incident leaves friends family and colleagues asking just one question......Why? The girls died having chosen to do a job where they run towards danger in order to protect others from harm. They died having taken an oath to serve the country without fear or favour. They died trying to keep us safe only for their lives to snubbed out by an individual who holds nothing as sacred, not even the human life. My thoughts are with their friends, families and colleagues left behind and may they find solace during these dark dark days. May you both rest in peace you heros.
In reality he will be a burden on the state locked up in a High Security prison for the rest of his life. He will demand his rights (and get them), be treated with dignity and strut around wearing his status like a badge of honour. One in one out; Donald Neilson (The Black Panther) lived at our expense in prison from 1976 until 2011. This little scrote Cregan will do the same whilst the namby-pamby, do-gooder, PC brigade keep on campaigning for his rights. Thats how it is folks. God bless Nicola and Fiona and their families and friends. RIP
affraid the death penalty should be brought back for murder of a police officer , child killers and extreme violent/sexual killings...having been in a prison I can say they have it very easy and plenty come out with great business connections and prospects for earning cash illegally
Trouble with these type of scum is that they need assistance to win a fight in the form of a gang a knife or in this case guns and grenades! they EXPECT to be respected. Usually one to one fisticuffs leaves them sobbing for mommy having pissed their pants. It makes me sick to the stomach that this piece of shit will now enter a justice system where he will be screaming for his "rights". The very same rights he saw fit to take away from those poor Police Officers. Even worse he will be thrown into a prison with other sick scum who will hold him up as some sort of deity for having killed two "Pigs". We have seriously gone wrong somewhere. Human rights act says that everyone has the right to life. My suggestion ship this scum out to an unihabited desert island preferably near Bikini Athol where he can live happily until he dies slowly of radiation or some other slow painful debilitating tropical disease.
You don't have to look too hard on this forum for the same language used towards the police. Let's hope they never suffer the embarrassment of needing their assistance.
As my post said, the death penalty! This tosser ( I struggled to find words to describe people like him) should not be given the chance to carry on living, at our expense, probably lording it up in prison. He has deliberately taken 4 lives now, 2 for what can only be described as hate crime, and 2 just because of the uniform they wore! He has, in my opinion, forfeited any rights he thinks he should have.
Much as I despise our sneaky laws re speeding, I do have great respect for the police and the job they do. I had 2 uncles who were in the force and one of my best mates is in the Met! Hearing what he has to put up with sometimes makes me wonder why they take up this career!
Trouble being Human Rights apply to everyone, not just the people we like. If we as a society are going to set ourselves in judgement on the actions of others, and we do that the moment we bring in laws and accepted standards of behaviour, then we must hold ourselves to higher standards than the actions of the transgressors. The moment a society descends to the level of the criminal it drops into a spiral of decay that becomes more and more recessive and violent until it implodes. By having a set of ideals and living by them an example is set and the moral right to demand levels of behaviour from others can be maintained. By making those rights and ideals conditional we lose the right to expect others to maintain our standards.
I have to disagree I'm afraid. The human rights act, as it currently stands,seems to be in the criminals favour! If you deliberately set out to commit such heinous crimes then the penalty should fit the crime! I am a law abiding citizen ( with the exception of riding/driving a bit quicker than posted speeds), I would never consider killing someone, just because they disrespected me or because of the uniform they wore. Respect has to be earned, but you can and should be taught to respect others property and life.
