Motogp Press Conference

Discussion in 'Racing & Bike Sport' started by rcv4, Oct 31, 2015.

  1. Well spotted! :upyeah:
     
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  2. Thats 50 quid extra on your job
     
  3. Don't worry, I'll make amends somehow :D
    :Writing: that Rossi is a cnut
     
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  4. By this time next week we will all be bored and waiting for next season.
     
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  5. I think it will take longer than next week,depending on how the weekend goes some of up will be bitter and twisted.
     
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  6. Or waiting for publication of the CAS reserved judgement, which may end up meaning the title is only decided in January or whatever, when they deliver their ruling.
     
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  7. If the 3 penalty points are put on hold prior to the race and VR doesn't start from the back of the grid then, even if the penalty points are subsequently confirmed, they cannot effectively be "backdated", the race would have been run and race points awarded. How could the effect of the penalty, if it had been applied prior to the race, be calculated.
     
  8. Do you reckon? I've seen nothing on here lately to suggest that. :Watching:
     
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  9. It will be intresting to hear wot the clowns at BT sport have to say after two weeks of pondering.
     
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  10. Having watched that several times I tend to agree.

    Perhaps the racers on here can answer this - is there anything in the rule book which says words to the effect of a rider must take the racing line, or try to make the apex, or ride at a "race pace"?

    The reason I ask, is that if Rossi is entitled by the strict letter of the rule book to turn in whenever he wants, to pick his own line and to take the corner at whatever speed he chooses, then he's not fallen foul of the rules, save for perhaps a catch all "riding irresponsibly" judgment call/discretionary decision, which, as everyone knows, is what he was penalised for.

    However, after looking at the footage over and over it seems to me that he caused no danger to either himself or Marquez simply by missing the apex, taking a very wide line while drifting out towards the outside of the track and then decelerating while tracking Marquez's arc. Although there was eventually very possibly/probably a collision between them, this was actually initiated by Marquez leaning in on Rossi and making contact with his helmet on Rossi's knee (and possibly other parts of either rider or bike touched, but it's not clear) at which it looks like Rossi fended him off with his knee slider into Marquez's visor, immediately after which, for reasons which are unclear, Marquez lost control as they disengaged.

    PS: I seem to recall that Foggy was pretty handy at letting off the brakes and running people out wide if the mood so took him, though I must admit, I've never seen anything like the VR/MM incident before.
     
    #153 Zhed46, Nov 5, 2015
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  11. hmmm, naughty Rossi, impetuous Marquez. Leave it as it stands, Rossi with penalty and MM scored no points
     
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  12. So he fended him off with his knee slider...i thought his foot came off the footrest with the impact?..and he wast missing the apex it looked more like obstruction to me.
     
  13. I never said his foot came off the footrest with the impact. I'm only calling it how I see it. Look at the frame by frame footage and see if you agree
     
  14. I can only think some contributes genuinely have a white stick and Labrador.

    There is a rule in mgp about touring on the racing line, and acu I think also mention touring i.e. It's not permitted. Closest you will find to a rule break
     
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  15. So I guess CAS will announce whether VR starts fom back of the grid after the riders/team meeting thats being held in place of the press conf. Whatever they decide is going to start a whole new flurry of debate......as if it hasn't had enough. I personally think they will let let him start from qually pos to play it safe in legal terms and pressure from the VR publicity/fanbase rollercoaster.
    VR should've taken the FIM penalty imho. He caused MM to crash, plain and simple.
     
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  16. Well I suppose it is true to say that if VR hadn't started the race then MM wouldn't have crashed in those circumstances. But equally if MM hadn't accelerated and turned into VR he wouldn't have crashed either. So to say that VR "caused MM to crash, plain and simple" is far from plain and certainly not simple.
     
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