@bradders , had a play yesterday with the preload on the passive leg after you mentioned it. Night and day !!! Bike is absolutley transformed, no more front end looseness on an uneven corner. Front end was very "crashy" on bumpy corners before, is much better now, more like my old 14 plate bike which I loved. I went to Motorapido yesterday and the guys did say the bike is set up very soft on preload from the factory. Much much better now, Cheers for the tip
As the manual said mine was set at 10 full turns out as standard. I weigh 75kg so I added 2.5 turns based off the add half a turn for every 15kg mentioned a few times on this forum and the US and A forum. Front does feel better. I'm not inclined to add more preload as I went for a ride with the preload fully wound in and the bike attitude felt really different. Not chopper like but noticeably raised at the front. The only thing I'm trying to understand is how the following could be true: Add 0.5 turns per 15kg. 10 full turns of adjustment = 20 0.5 turns which is what someone who weighs 300kg would add based on the assumption to add 0.5 turns per 15kg. Surely no front spring has that range of adjustment?? @bradders mention of 1 turn/15kg seems more plausible as that would essentially cover 150kg of weight. I've added 2.5 turns and there's definitely more feedback and support. I'd be more inclined to add damping before preload now.
Not an expert, would expect it to be a bit greater capacity than 150kg because of rider/pillion/luggage scenario. Start with what you have then just add half a turn and see what happens If you firm the preload, it may be worth softening the comp/rebound maybe using default as it could be it needs to be softer to work in the right range. As Wayne did, its worth the odd ride just messing with settings and finding one you prefer
I took the spanner out with me and made half turn adjustments every few miles till I got the front end feel I wanted. I altered nothing on the electronic side in the dash, only adjusted the passive leg pre load. I ain't exactly mark marquez but the difference is huge once ya get it right. Again, cheers @bradders , and best of luck @burndownthediscos
IMHIO if you can get to use default on the modes and have the preload right, its the best place to be
Celebrating a week of M1200S ownership with a big bastard screw in the rear. Am I right the repair kit in the rear is a get me to the nearest garage kit and not a permanent plug?
That's official line; get it fixed or condemned by a professional. However, I was once in the ferry queue at Dover when I noticed a nail through my rear tyre which had been fitted for the trip just a week before. Once in France we couldn't find a motorcycle tyre shop to help, so it was repaired at the roadside with a glued plug. I took great care to get it right as we were off to the Alps that very day. At every stop I checked the plug and the tyre pressure, and it never leaked one psi through the trip. In fact, I used that tyre for 7000 miles until it was time for a change. So yes, get it plugged and checked asap, but it is not automatic that a new tyre is required. Many punctures can be safely repaired.
Was thinking I'll use the repair kit get it inflated and get it over to get a proper plug. I'm thinking of taking the scorpions off and keeping them until winter. Stick on something sportier for summer. What do people stick in M7RR? Been reading about roadtec 01 too but never bought sports touring tyres in my life.
If your going to use the sticky string one in the bike kit. Make sure it doesn't compromise having a proper plug fitted later. And make sure you wear gloves or put the sleeve on the canister before you use it
You may have your own guy but Matt at Bike Tyre Services in Sale ( nr Ducati Manchester- google if u want to know where they are) has plugged my nearly new M7RR's in the past. Sometimes have to wait so first thing in the morning by appointment is the best way. BTS - Bike Tyre Services He's also a wealth of information on tyres.
Had a puncture coming back from Assen one year, used the foam and all it did was squirt out crap behind me. Used a plug and rode with it in till the tyre needed replacing due to wear. Plugs if done right should be a decent long term repair and on the main tread, not the edges. As usual though it's a confidence thing, if you are unsure, not happy or prefer the confidence a new tyre would bring, then do what is right for you.
Thanks for replies folks I think I'm gonna give either M7RR or Roadtec 01 a whirl and get the rear plugged and keep the scorpions for the winter. Has anybody used both on a multi and got any comments? I've used M7RR and loved them on my 675R.
Friend of mine runs a tyre fitting business and flatly refuses to fit an internal mushroom plug to a tyre that's had tyre foam or glupe put in it.
I have had the original Scorpions - acceptable but not great and the front wears poorly; Mich PR4's - excellent all round and great in the wet; and Roadtec 01's on at the moment - also excellent but not tried in really wet conditions.
Just had some Metzeler Roadtec 01 fitted and even in the pissing rain on new tyres you can feel a difference over the Scorpions. Scorpion rear is plugged and I'll be chucking them in the garage until winter and use them for commuting duties.
