Hi My multistrada 1000 will start and run fine in Neutral but as soon as i put it in gear with sidestand up it cuts out, if i earth the neutral switch wire to the engine the bike will run fine (although the neutral light will always be on). side stand switch is new i've checker the usual relays & fitted my spare ECU and this has not helped. Any Ideas please? THanks
Is the new side stand switch wired in correctly? I’d remove the switch, make sure any broken connections in doing so are reconnected and try again.
As said, side stand switch not working would be the logical answer. It could be connector but quickest way to bypass is a paperclip or similar carefully inserted in the connector to short the two connections out.
Whatever is going on the ECU thinks the stand is down despite the new switch. As Paul says, check the connections to the switch. It should be just plug and play but perhaps the terminals in the loom half of the connector are damaged. If that is all OK check for 12V on the black/green wire and if that is OK check the continuity of the white/red wire back to the ECU grey connector, pin 38. And of course it's always possible that the new switch is duff. Chris's suggestion to test with a paper clip should show that.
Jumped the switch and the bike still cuts out as soon as gear is engaged. will get out the multimeter and check . thanks
dosen't appear to be continuity bettween pin 38 and the side stand connector , reading 10.9 at the switch connector when jumper pin is connected , no reading on the green/black wire on its own. so Bad wiring ? , don't suppose there are any quick ways to repair this?
i don't suppose you know if side stand switch is wired directly to the pin 38 ? , i'm thinking maybe a new direct replacment wire from side stand connector to grey wire (pin 38) could be possible ? . thanks
All I can tell you is that the wiring diagram shows a white/red from the side stand loom connector directly to pin 38 of the grey 'body' connector of the ECU. You also mentioned that you measured 'nothing' at the black/green wire. The diagram shows that there should be 12v there with the ignition on. In my experience wires in the loom are most often broken at the connectors, especially if there has been any movement but it's also worth checking where any cable ties are gripping it really tightly.
With the switch connected, can you back probe the wiring to check the two cables, loom side, are being switched? There have been two switches and they switch differently. Switch has three wires, loom side just two. Testing the switch wired up will make sure it’s switching the right ones.
Getting 10.9 reading from white/red cable now , have taken battery off to charge so will check switch tomorow Nelly, thanks, probably corrosion in the wireing somewhere as you know its a bit of a rough old girl lol.
I might have given you some duff information! Although the MTS1000 wiring diagram quite clearly shows 12V on the black/green wire, supplied via a 3A fuse, every other iteration of the sidestand switch with the IAW59M/5AM ECUs shows that wire as being a ground connection. Which fits with my understanding for the ST4s, S4, S4R, 998, 749/999 & 848/1098. So I 'm reckoning that the diagram from the owner's manual is wrong. Unfortunately that is not an uncommon occurrence from Ducati which can make diagnosis more difficult. So it might be worth checking continuity between the black/green at the stand connector and ground. Check also the terminals within the connector for corrosion. The red/white wire will have a floating voltage until the switch is closed and it is grounded. So 10.9V with the switch open or disconnected is probably what you might see.
Thanks could you possibly check if pin 38 is definatly where the grey wire goes i don't want to pull the ecu connector apart unless i have to but from what i can see it looks like grey goes somewhere in the middle & a pink wire goes to 38 in the corner . Thanks
There shouldn't be a grey wire. The wire from the stand switch to the ECU is either white/red or white and it goes to pin 38 of the grey (Body) connector. Below is a pinout for the ST4s but the location is the same and the wire is white. However I don't think you have a problem with that wire. The fact that you measure a voltage on it with the ignition on would indicate to me that it is connecting to the ECU. I think the problem lies with the switch or the other wire to it.
So have checked connector readings pins 1 on both sides show 10.9 with stand down , pin 2 on switch side only reads a random number between 0 & 10.9 as the stand moves from down to up & 0 when fully up, pin 3 on both sides reads 10.9 with stand up . i have continuity between pin 38 on ecu to pins on connector. Does the switch earth at the sidestand ? thanks
The clutch switch won't cut the engine. It only prevents the starter if the bike is in gear unless the lever is pulled.
well aware of that, wasn't made clear at what point the engine cut-out so just trying to clarify Derek..
Yes. I believe so. Pins 1 and 2 are bridged by the switch to make the circuit, enabling the engine to run. You should get continuity between these pins of the switch when the stand is up. Although the switch has 3 wires there is nothing connected to pin 3 on the loom side. It's also possible to fit the switch incorrectly, as proved by Ducati Glasgow when I had to take my Scrambler for a recall for the side stand bolt to be replaced. I live 2 hours away and I asked if they would send me the bolt which I could replace and send them back the old one but they insisted that the work had to be done by them. So I had a 2 hour ride to Glasgow in heavy rain, setting off at 7.00am. After a 2 hour wait they said 'that's your bike ready'. I got kitted up and started the bike which immediately cut out when I selected 1st gear. I had to wait another ½ hour while the 'sorted' their feck up, then another 2 hr ride home in the rain.
Clutch switch reads 12 when out 0 when pulled , wondering about improving the earth at side stand, mounting bolts were a bit loose . anyone know if having neutral light perminently on will fail mot ? id assume so.