I don't know how to start this post, am sure the debate has already been answered even when looking via search box engines on many forum I can never seem to find what am looking for... That out of the way... I think am at the end of sport bikes even though I really, really like to keep mine (the custom colour, the memories, the trips) though selling it will go towards a newer bike... Now I test ridden a DVT last year (and a Hyperstrada this year), I couldn't believe how nimble n agile it was for a 1200, the downside it was a demo not run in yet (dealer said no blasting the engine). I prefer the looks of the old Multi compared to the DVT version but like anything new it take me ages to grow a liking... I know nothing is bullet proof, everything has a breaking point I know over years of owning my 749 the exspense x3 the price I paid for it probably... 1) Between 2010 -15 the usual problems... 2) The For and Against Stock vs S models (S will sell most quicker , R even more if Ducati ever did one) 3) The For & Against 2010-15 vs the DVT. I will mostly 1up occasionally with luggage, cant think what id use panniers for when I had a Roll bag on a ventura rack on my 749... Most ppl put on a 2-1 aftermarket exhaust, has anyone seen a seprate exhaust system, one coming from the front of the engine and then one coming from the back going into its own silencer...+/- I like the look of DVT enduro Termi exhaust would this fit the stock/S DVT I seen how this could be done its just will it just slip on the other side..
DVT easier to ride, twinspark 2013-15 bit more exciting IMHO Skyhook a given, and still not overly convinced the DVT version is that much better than the older one TBH
Imho the twinspark engine is far more exciting and Ducati like than DVT, which i found to lack charecter and grunt against the Twin spark. I often tourbwith a matd on DVT, and our bikes arevas fast as each others, infact he finds my faster. And he is a racing driver. The DVT has better ergonomics, better seat handlebar relationship, cruise control and other bells and whistles. It depends what you want from it, both fantastic machines, but i cannot give up my TS as it is more reminiscent of Ducati ST4s etc.
Btw there really is no difference in their pace IME. Just one feels faster and the other so smooth and just drives forward with minimal drama
Had both, and give me the DVT every time. Much nicer bike to ride especially in town and just as exciting as the TwinSpark to me on the open road. But neither of my bikes had or have been modified. p.s. It has to be the S model
After riding mainly the DVT for the last couple of years, this weekend I have ridden c. 200 miles on the pre-DVT Multi again, like a refresher. The pre-DVT is a bit harsher in the engine, a bit more dive-ey in the Ohlins suspension, a bit taller, and considerably less sophisticated in the electronics/switchgear/display departments. This has confirmed my opinion that the DVT is vastly better overall, and still getting better with every new software update. The pre-DVT was like a first stab at the concept, which was extensively upgraded in the light of experience five years later with the DVT. This I why I am collecting a new 2017 DVT from Snells on Tuesday, and I'm now considering selling the 2011 pre-DVT bike.
That what I didn't like about the DVT being too refined compare to my 13 year old duke (owned 7 years) I do like post 2013> with the 5 spoked wheels (with a paint scheme /hydrographics in mind)... Will have to delve deeper to find out why service techicians I use for servicing /repairs don't like the skyhook version or is it cause you have carry spare skyhook sensors round with you...
Or 'if' 2018 brings a totally new multi , then either go the new model route , or take advantage of the price drop on the pre 2018 multi's Btw.. I owned a 2014 twin spark prior to my Dvt, prefer my Dvt no doubt, as has been said before, the 42 tooth rear sprocket mod transforms the bike to sublime over excellent Steve
Or I could wait until the next model after that, or the one after that ... New models come out from time to time, and always will. If the bike you want and like is available right now, why not just get on and buy it? Who knows, the next model might be worse. Or I might be too old to ride it by then.
I rode the 2017 (in that lovely Volcano Grey) 1200S at the weekend, with the new airbox, engine map and (I gather) valve timing. It is a huge improvement over the 15/16 DVT and, were I coming from any other bike, I'd be digging down the back of the sofa for loose change. However, I got back on my Mk 1 (pre-TS) 1200S with the Öhlins SCU and thought, "Nah, this is what it's all about…". That said, the '17 bike only had 200 miles on the clock and the idle was a bit ragged - probably just needed to finish running in. I'll aim for another go in a couple of weeks up at the Green Welly and see if that modifies my opinion.
The DVT is a much better handling bike, IMHO with far more feel to the front end. Set up right it is also much quicker with the motor spinning up so easily.
Not ridden the DVT but read a lot about it, I have a 14 TS jobby, I have to say with the Mivv exhaust system on it breaths much better, I have no intensions of swapping it out for a DVT I like the harsh ness of the power but I don't rate the skyhook suspension and have had no end of trouble with it that said now it's fettled it does handle just how I like it. I'm not sure if its a bad thing but I feel almost as one on it weather 2 up with luggage or solo. As for better performance than the DVT I don't know but I bet there isn't much in it and when you off-set the difference in price after and the looks of the pre DVT I would take another TS hands down, True I'd like a colour screen and cruse control but it's not the end of the world. I'm sure what ever choice you take you wont be disappointed.
Today I have collected my new DVT from Snells, and ridden it 50 miles or so. The panniers are on it, but the centre-stand and the top-box were unavailable so will be added in a fortnight when the 600 miles service is done. I have already made a few modifications (all reversible): Grip Puppies foam grips Enduro big footrests Air seat pad LED rear indicators Tank bag mount Garmin satnav mount R&G crash bungs Electric petrol filler cap Protective film over dash display Taller tinted windscreen Soon I'll have it exactly how I want it. I like the hill-start brake function, it's helpful.
I went for led rear indicators, Puig screen ..dash display protector is a definite ! Add a 42 rear sprocket & Arrow decat to the list & you'll be gripped !!
Having ridden DVT and pre-DVT models back to back on multiple occasions, I'd rate the DVT as more neutral-handling out-of-the-box but a properly set-up Öhlins bike has significantly more feel and precision. A DVT will take off at the top-end, by which time a pre-DVT machine will be over the hills and far away.
