Brexit Moving On

Discussion in 'Speakers Corner' started by bradders, Dec 8, 2017.

  1. The stereo type we are presented with, by 'the media'? coffee drinking, militant, work shy sorts.

    Over the last few weeks I have started my move to France ( back and forth for a month or two, things to sort), anyway;

    SAUR water for our area, went in the office in Objat with no appointment, half an hour later a very helpful French lady had us booked in to turn on the water. Within 1 day.
    EDF, I think about a weeks notice, arranged a day and a time between 1.30 and 3.30. Turned up at 3.30 on said day. New meter. No fuss.
    Walked up to village and introduced myself to the Mairie. Came away with information pack for bin collections, times of day and week when acceptable to make noise.
    New neighbours talk to you, already know more people in the space of a week than i did after 1 year at last home.
    Bought a car. Garage and salesman mega helpful, beyond 'just getting a sale'.

    So far, very efficient. Oh, Credit Agricole (Britlline, ahem). Speak perfect English, staff sound like they come from various European countries, including UK. Easily sorted car insurance with them. None of the farce I seem to get in UK at times.
    I arrived, expecting much worse, so far proving to be more reliable and better communications than home!!
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  2. And there in lies what the eu commission does not want you to see because it wants to protect the project at all costs

    Even the most fervent brexiteers have said, we have no beef with the countries or people of other 27 and want to remain that strong friend on edge of the eu. The commission has induced a war between the 2 sides like a mischevious lawyer in a divorce by saying it's all or nothing.

    The peoples of the countries will generally have no beef with each other and at some point, I suspect soon, the other 27 will step in and remind the eu comission, the U.K. is not our enemy.

    I'm glad the move is going well jb and hope the retirement works out well too
    #3802 noobie, Aug 10, 2018 at 9:20 PM
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  3. Suspect you will fined leavers have no beef with almost everyone. Its remainers that have the beef, alongside the EU commission, who seem hell bent on 'punishing those upstart thicko wankers' who dared to vote against the Master Plan.

    Meanwhile, brexiteers are looking for trade and reciprocal deals with EVERYONE. Whats wrong with saying to Spain: our people can live and work there, your people can live and work here, subject to good trade agreements. And Germany. And France. etc etc
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  4. Agree, in part. Big problem though (this is not a selfish slant on things..) is that good trade agreements need some freedom of movement. EU wants that. UK dead against it. New trade agreements with Canada, China, rest of world will need some flexibility on this.
    There seems to be a strong viewpoint that foreign labour damages the UK when in fact the opposite is true. Rampant uncontrolled immigration may be an issue. That is for the government to control, it has always had the power to do so but has neglected its duties.
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  5. I really hope we'll get to a point where good trade deal equals movement of people too. Like used to be the case with some countries, like Australia. We still have the opportunity (as does the dealing county) to control who is in/out.
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  6. In some ways the best thing for the commonwealth countries was that we did leave them behind for the eu. This meant the colonial head was no longer the current and was an actual thing of the past.

    There is nothing to say however that we couldn't be part of a commonwealth 0% tariff safe country scheme where commonwealth countries do trade with each other at the zero tariff rate. There is no need for an eu organisation as any issues could be dealt with in the normal commonwealth meetings.

    I'm absolutely sure had the eu remained as a trade organisation only, we would never have left, but they did not and got a bit carried away with something most people never asked for.
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  7. If you can ignore the UKIP advert at the very beginning,this makes for a very good explanation as to how the EU entangled us in it's ever tightening web.
    Only the very interested should consider watching it though as it's bloody long and most of the speakers are middle-class independent citizens,not politicians or well-known public figures.(In other words don't expect a lot of entertainment).