Afternoon Been trying to hang my body off the bike more and get my head in-line with were my mirrors should be. Thing is I seem to have a LOT of downward weight on the inside bar. Arm is "flat"/horizontal but I seem to be holding my upper body up on the inside arm. This makes it hard to push the inside bar to counter steer and makes me grip the bar much harder than I want to. Also, should my arse be at the back of the seat mid corner (obviously hanging off inside at same time)? Cheers CR
If you haven't already, give twist of the wrist a read/watch (it's on YouTube) I feel it'd be beneficial. Sounds like you're hanging on to the bars though rather than the tank which may be a factor in the problem you're having..
Been watching some of it. Trying the throttle role on stuff but keeps running me wide...... Regs weight, how do i get the weight on the tank not the bars?
You followed me a bit, that was gas on/off riding using the gas to tighten the corner as much as it is to accelerate out, all TOTW stuff only thing I try not to do is sit back, I like to be against the tank and have more weight forward. Personal preference and Simon Crafar advice I have PDF of both books if you want a copy, Dropbox Few tips I found useful. -head follows shoulder so drop your shoulder -inside arm best around 90 deg bent -dig knee into tank, you hang off with your leg not your arms. Technically you should be able to let go of the bars and fall no lower
Gas on through long sweeping A roads is fine, it's cranked over on tight corners, ie, right on a roundabout, knee down, roll on throttle and it pushes wide. Have to stay on neutral throttle, maybe need to tweak the front forks..... It's this far over that I'm finding the weight pushing down on the inside barn, inside arm is deffo flat.
When you say flat, do you mean your forearm and wrist are all in line with the brake lever and elbow bent? Neutral throttle may be what's needed. Rolling on can be very slight, doesn't have to be a handful. If you are pushing the front it can go wide, hence the whole 'steer with the rear' thing.
Suspension and the state of the tyres (profile and pressure) are usual culprits for a bike that pushes wide on the throttle out of a bend. Assuming that the bike is designed for turning - e.g. a sporty Ducati as opposed to a Yamaha Virago. There, I have exhausted my knowledge on the subject.
I found some interesting (and useful) stuff in this - especially the bit about weighting the outside footrest and anchoring your weight with your knee on the tank. The only reason you need to touch the bars is to initiate the turn (countersteer) and to roll the throttle on a bit. http://nmcu.org/files/Full Control_2013.pdf Another way of putting it (learnt this on a CSS course) is to think of body position as a sort of "Z-shape" - push down on the outside peg and push forward with the inside bar. Which is much the same as the NMCU article says.
If you have a notion too, I can absolutely recommend a track day to help. It gives you all the opportunity to learn to relax and in an environment that is far safer than any road
I've got a 1:1 day with BSB in July, really looking forward to learning new skills in a safe environment
I have the PDF of that too if anyone wants it CSS is not great if you are racing tho. Nice fast lines that teaches you to brake early....then people sail up the inspire and simply block pass you. Easy.
As said above trackdays are very good for learning if you're a learner type and not one that already thinks they'd put Rossi to shame.
True but often what seems to be the problem is not the lack of ability but more the lack of being relaxed enough to use it.
