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Ducati Scrambler 350cc 1969

Discussion in 'Vintage' started by Geert, Sep 13, 2020.

  1. Hi,
    I am able to buy a Ducati scrambler 350 1969 in restored condition ,engine and frame are like new!
    Is this a collectable bike , I mean will the bike keep his value or even will raise in the futur ?
    I know it's a 50 years bike ......but technical is it a reliable bike ?
     
  2. Perhaps this question is for @Pete1950 ?
     
  3. Much of your question depends on what the bike costs you to buy.
     
  4. They ask 6500£ , but the bike is fully restored .
    Do you think this is a correct price ?
     
    #4 Geert, Sep 13, 2020
    Last edited: Sep 13, 2020
  5. You will find with a 50 year old bike that the age profile will effect any future increase in value. The market simply will not be there from people who wish to relive their youth. That said, if you like them and want one then buy it and enjoy it. It probably won't drop in value so better than buying into the new Scramblie lifestyle ;) Price seems top end, but if the resto is top end then it could be priced ok, research will tell you this :):upyeah:
     
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  6. Thanks for the info .
    Here some pictures . $_86 (1).jpg $_86 (2).jpg $_86.jpg
     
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  7. Seems too much money for what it is in my opinion. I don't see you getting your money back in a hurry.
     
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  8. By your reasoning a 1920s Brough Superior should be worth tuppence and yet they start at 100 Grand!
     
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  9. Hi Geert -
    Actually I have a 1972 450 Scrambler in yellow.

    They are lovely to look at and a pleasure to ride. A 350 is only a little bit less desirable than a 450. The Scramblers, being valve spring not desmo, are a little easier to service.

    £6.5K looks like rather a cheap price actually, if the bike you mention really is in good condition. It is important for it to have all correct, original standard parts, not different spurious parts. Those for sale at a cheaper price will need more money spending to bring them up to scratch.

    Ducati bevel engines are not simple to rebuild. All the internal shimming has to be done correctly, which is an expensive process, and results in a highly reliable machine. If the shimming was not done well, the engine will not be reliable.

    It is easy to see whether the paint and chrome, the suspension and brakes, chain and tyres are in excellent condition. The inside of the engine is of course not visible but at least you can verify that it does not rattle, smoke, whine, misfire, or leak oil.

    As for future value, who knows? Part of the appeal of classic bikes is older men reliving their youth with machines they used to covet, and that aspect eventually diminishes with the passing years. But classics which look good, sound good, and are fun to ride will always be desirable. And will always find a market.

    It is the Desmo Ducati bevel singles which fetch the highest prices, but as they rise out of reach the Scramblers follow. The fact that Ducati have recently referenced the style and recycled the name in new models of Scrambler must add considerably to the attraction.

    I think (and hope) that Scrambler singles will appreciate a little more. As always collectors are most attracted by the best and smartest ones which go well, not rough or modified examples.

    Perhaps I might comment on the photos which you posted. Many details are not visible, but from what I can see the 350 bike looks largely standard and largely complete. The front mudguard is too short. The silencer is off a bevel twin not a single.
    Best wishes and good luck,
    Peter.
     
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  10. My reasoning is entirely correct, and I have mentioned Brough Superiors many times in my reasoning on values. Like when people say cat C and D bikes and Bitsa's are not worth collecting. I mention Lawrence of Arabia's Brough which is the most valuable motorcycle and both a right off and a bitsa in its time. There are always some rare breeds that buck the general trend are are considered more like art in terms of value indefinably. Mass produced models do not fall into this category as this one doesn't - as the market falls away. Simples :)
     
  11. Perhaps a Brough was a bad example. Lets use a VW Beetle then. Highly sought after worth more than new if in the right condition probably even if you take inflation into account. How many were made? 21 million or so?
     
  12. Another bad example, my theory is correct and has held out for over 100 years :):upyeah:
     
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  13. If you disregard all the “Bad Examples” for a moment, what’s left?
     
  14. Hi Peter ,
    Thanks for the reply !
    The engine is completely rebuild by a specialist , I will have 1year or 5000km guarantee on all parts .
    Is that a big problem concerning the mudguard and the silencer ?
    Are they still to find on the 2de hand market ?
    Kind regards
    Geert
     
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  15. So both, one example of a rare breed and one of a mass produced product to use your words, hold true with your theory? One holds or increases its value because of it's exclusiveness. So why, by applying your theory, does a mass produced every day car like a beetle do the same and increase in price and popularity?
     
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  16. It just proves my point :):upyeah:
     
  17. Perhaps you need to read my factual theory :eyes:
     
  18. If nothing else think of enjoyment of looking for and finding the missing parts. It's half the fun of having a classic bike. I restored a rare German bike some years ago. I attempted a concourse restoration and it took me years to find the last 2 missing parts. One was a logo for the front mudguard and the other was a piece of a certain soap that came with the bike originally. I liked the hunt for bits almost more than the end result.
     
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  19. Is that the one that stroker has for sale?
    I would say that is a good price,but then again he had it for sale for quite sometime all ready.
    So maybe it is a bit to high for that model then.

    Henk!!!
     
  20. Correct silencers are readily available new, in a choice of lengths: long = quieter; short = more power but sounds fruity. The twin type Conti on this bike is probably worth more than a new Scrambler silencer will cost.

    https://www.ducaticlassics.com/parts/250-350-and-450-scrambler/all/exhaust

    The mudguard is a minor issue. You might fit a longer one at some later date.


    There may be other issues not apparent from the photos, of course.
     
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