Just thought I`d share. When it`s gone, it`s gone. My bit is 35-ish seconds in to about 1minute 20 seconds.
My dad used to work for British Steel at Dorman Long and Lackenby as a ladle man before he started his own business in 1968-9
My dad too. All his working life at Stocksbridge steel works. Just over the hill from you. My late grandad was in the stainless steel/ wire department.
What’s the climate impact of production? http://www.theworldcounts.com/counters/environmental_effect_of_mining/steel_environmental_impact
Awful I expect. Whats the impact of not being able to produce steel to build your own ships when your country is an island - we could be in trouble if a major conflict broke out? Surely there are enough government contracts that use steel to enable the UK to keep a small industry busy, thus saving all the welfare payments, maintaining all the taxes paid on the earnings and the spending by workers? Most military gear which the country sells is made from steel... Maintaining the skills and keeping these people in jobs is very important imo.
It matters to the people who could build your warships in the UK. It matters to 4000 steel workers and an estimated 20,000 workers affected in the supply line, plus all their families. Anyhow do you have a short memory? The Spanish Armada wasn't that long ago. Plus they are trying to steal Gib from us. Dodgy source of warships I reckon!
If the Gov give the tender to Spain for a £1bn fleet, who's steel will be used? As i am facing my second redundancy, in 12 years, at the moment. I feel for those workers and families. I cant remember if I have a short memory or not.
I'm sure the UK can build its own ships, and give work to our own designers, builders & steelmen & women if the government were not total cvnts. If you remember, let us know about your memory? LOL. I hope everything works out for you with the redundancy. I've never been through one myself but I imagine its a tough time. Good luck.
Are you for brexit? Live local, buy local, work local. Wouldn’t it be great if we could produce the stuff (environmentalists won’t allow it), keep procurement preferred UK status (Eu won’t allow it) and make it with our own engineers (govt don’t invest in training as we can’t do 1 and 2). My kind of socialism
I don't think that EU stops the UK or any member state building its own military/ strategic equipment? "EU law requires most government contracts to be procured via an open, competitive process. The main EU legislation in the defence domain is the Defence and Security Directive 2009/81/EC, transposed into UK law by Defence and Security Public Contracts Regulations 2011.13 However, Article 346 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union (TFEU) provides for an exemption to the procurement rules where a country considers it to be necessary for national security reasons: “any Member State may take such measures as it considers necessary for the protection of the essential interests of its security which are connected with the production of or trade in arms, munitions and war material”. Article 346 refers to a list drawn up in 1958 by the Council of Ministers of products to which the provisions"
I'm afraid it's one of those industries in transitional change, like mining. At no point were either planned to be closed down for environmental benefit although decades later we will benefit from that. Our generation can start to the discussion on decisions that will have to acted on upon by our kids and grandkids is, where do they want the lines to be on environment versus technology, when it comes to jobs? Governments will have to decide also, do they approach the people and say, we need some key industries but to keep them alive that means paying much more than using outside options, is this a cost justified and are you willing to pay it?
And yet they stop local subsidies and procurement from being only sought in-country. You can’t have it both ways: to be competitive we have to employ less people and extract as cheap as possible. That doesn’t fit 2019 UK. You want Britain-first approach to big industry. That doesn’t fit EU membership rules for U.K.
