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Police Probe Into 'transphobic' Tweets Unlawful

Discussion in 'Speakers Corner' started by AirCon, Feb 14, 2020 at 2:15 PM.

  1. The police response to an ex-officer's allegedly transphobic tweets was unlawful, the High Court has ruled.

    Harry Miller was visited by Humberside Police at work in January last year after a complaint about his tweets.
    He was told he had not committed a crime, but it would be recorded as a non-crime "hate incident".

    The court found the force's actions were a "disproportionate interference" with his right to freedom of expression.

    Officers visited Mr Miller's workplace and then spoke with him on the phone, and he was left with the impression "that he might be prosecuted if he continued to tweet", according to a judge.

    Speaking after the ruling, Mr Miller, from Lincolnshire, said: "This is a watershed moment for liberty - the police were wrong to visit my workplace, wrong to 'check my thinking'."

    His solicitor Paul Conrathe added: "It is a strong warning to local police forces not to interfere with people's free speech rights on matters of significant controversy."

    'Orwellian society'

    Mr Justice Julian Knowles said the effect of police turning up at Mr Miller's place of work "because of his political opinions must not be underestimated".
    He added: "To do so would be to undervalue a cardinal democratic freedom.
    "In this country we have never had a Cheka, a Gestapo or a Stasi. We have never lived in an Orwellian society."
    Responding to the ruling, Helen Belcher, who co-founded Trans Media Watch,
    said: "I think trans people will be worried it could become open season on us because the court didn't really define what the threshold for acceptable speech was.

    "I think it will reinforce an opinion that courts don't understand trans lives and aren't there to protect trans people."

    Mr Miller, 54, also launched a wider challenge against the lawfulness of College of Policing guidelines on hate crimes, which was rejected.

    Mr Justice Knowles ruled they "serve legitimate purposes and [are] not disproportionate".

    The guidelines define a hate incident as "any non-crime incident which is perceived, by the victim or any other person, to be motivated by a hostility or prejudice against a person who is transgender or perceived to be transgender".

    #1 AirCon, Feb 14, 2020 at 2:15 PM
    Last edited: Feb 14, 2020 at 4:39 PM
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  2. What did he say?
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  3. Questioned whether a trans woman was a woman
  4. My head hurts ....
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  5. Fekkin hang him :mad:
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  6. Hold on, what was the correct answer - was the trans woman an woman or a man??
  7. Fucking weirdos
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  8. Men are an oppressed majority. So if a person born female wants to fight with a man self identifying as a woman then all men should stay well clear, it's a trap like, does my bum look big in this
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  9. A guy at work (who is a bit odd) said one day he had 4 people coming round for a dinner party, 2 lesbians and two women who used to be men.
    I corrected him by saying: No! Coming for dinner are 2 lesbians and too men who have had their dicks chopped off... :thinkingface:
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  10. Live and let live

    have an opinion, but if it is offensive towards others, maybe keep that opinion to your self.

    look in the mirror first, do you see perfection? If not maybe do a bit of work to improve your own personality

    Be nice, smile, have fun, being nice comes free, doesn’t cost a thing.......

    thank you.
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  11. Depends on whether you believe in chromosomes
  12. Was he offended, sorry, was the person you were speaking to offended?
  13. No - I've said far worse (in a nice way after looking in the mirror) so it was all fine :):upyeah:
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  14. and who did you see? exaleena?
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  15. Whatever that is in the picture has put me off my food.
    I want reimbursement- who do I send the bill to?
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  16. matching collar and cuffs?
  17. If you look into Helen Belcher, not physically, she has a long history of trawling the internet then reporting "transphobia" to the police and insisting they do something. Police are to afraid to say "not you again"

    It needed a court to tell her basically stop being a twat and not everything is transphobic
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  18. Was she/he/theythe person who complained? The report says it was a 'Mrs B', could be Belcher, but why have anonymity in the court then parade yourself outside? Weird, but then so are some of these people. 'Weird' as in not normal. 'Not normal' as in outside of the statistically average person, in this case of the same gender.....I suspect I'm probably digging a hole here so perhaps ought to stop:confused:
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  19. Should that be a " TransTwat "? Just saying like..

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