Just curious how many of ya trail brake on track? Front brake I better ad. I never did , until a recent trackday when Alastair Seeley was instructing and said hes either on the gas or on the brakes . Quite nervous trying it for the first time, goes against what I was thought on the road, brake in straight line etc.. Still trying to get to grips with leaning the bike and braking , all be it in proportion to lean angle. Pic will illustrate it better..
Yep odeally its one or the other, no coasting. Biggest change for most is transition from throttle to brakes, as again most will roll off, almost count to two then start apply brakes. Whereas fast giys and racers tend to off gas and straight on brakes, nothing in between. Makes a big difference to braking markers
Mate of mine told me two things (ex british champ level): gas or brakes, never between and if you cathc some one, go straight past, no waiting Didnt make me many friends on track but won me a few races and got me higher up the order than my starts would normally suggest
I just can't do it. Or at least nothing like how the diagram suggests. Like pushing the tyres, my brain's just telling me I'm about to crash when science says I'd have more grip. I trust my own brain over science though as it's gotta live with the pain of getting it wrong. Unless you're trying to win a race just ride how you like to enjoy yourself.
Hmmm, bugger that... If I've over cooked it I may trial to about the 20% mark but deffo not the apex. I'd rather sit it up. I understand and practice the brakes or gas thing. I think what they are getting at here is not to completely roll off to the apex. I've tucked the front end doing this, ahem.... I always crack the gas before the apex to keep front and rear stable. I guess if you're a racer then you need to practice the above. But you'll probably fall off a few times before getting the hang of it. My bike's far too priddy for that lark. And I don't bounce as well I used to.....
overcooking d turn is entirely different I reckon, really more about helping bike to turn better.Least thats what I read into it. Slow progressive brake release and throttle. Jurys out on whether I,ve the balls to keep tyring it lol
Coasting is my issue, I spend far too much time between the brakes and the throttle. I can brake into a corner if I concentrate hard on it but for some reason my brain will not let it sink in so I can do it all the time.
i did the California SBK School in August and learnt so much about turning and getting around corners, two different things the way they break it down. made a huge difference, but now my trouble is being able to remember / focus to do it all each time! no arguments from them that trail braking is a better advanced technique, but at my level there is still a lot to get right with throwing the bike on its side at turn in, getting stability on the throttle through the corner and using my vision that trail braking remains an over-cook only technique as mentioned above maybe its a focus for 2016 when i have my turns consistent! Simon Crafar also has a version of trail braking towards the apex that helps to keep the forks compressed for a better turning geometry, with the addition of as much engine braking as possible to help turn in. i understand it when i read it but not quite up to risking it......
