Discussion in 'Speakers Corner' started by triari, Nov 8, 2016.

  1. Trump has done nothing wrong.
    Remember that…

    As the corrupt media fabricate a “fitness for office” crisis, remember…

    Trump has done nothing wrong.

    Even those hiding behind anonymity, even those hiding behind those hiding behind anonymity, no one has made a single allegation that Trump has done anything wrong.

    All this ginned up media hysteria, all this Never Trump nonsense about the 25th Amendment, all this #Resistance adulation over a glory-seeking narcissist hiding behind the skirts of the New York Times — where is this narcissist’s allegation of wrongdoing?

    Go back and read the piece — there’s no allegation of wrongdoing on Trump’s part, just a coward, a preener, a saboteur with no respect for the Constitution, no respect for our electoral system, and even less respect for the American people who voted to put Trump in charge as opposed to an unelected cabal of Deep Staters.

    All this hand-wringing, all this frenzy, all this invented concern over chaos in the White House, over this unprecedented moment in presidential history, what is it really about…?

    No, ask yourself that.

    Stop for a moment.

    Take a breath.

    Close your eyes.

    Turn off Chuck Todd.

    Put away the iPhone.

    And ask yourself, what is this concocted five-alarm Constitutional crisis built on?

    If you are honest with yourself, you will realize that it is built on only one thing… Grade-A, 100 percent horseshit.

    Even if everything Woodward’s anonymous sources say is true… So what?

    Even if everything the New York Times narcissist says is true… So what?

    Look at what these failures and liars and grifters are trying to con you with… Because it has nothing to do with illegality, nothing to do with substance, and everything to do with style.

    The corrupt establishment is colluding to head fake America into freaking out over Trump’s style while Trump delivers and delivers and delivers on the substance, on things that actually matter.

    Trump has an erratic management style. So what? I’m supposed to care he burns people out, dresses them down, demands they do crazy stuff like at long last win one of these endless neocon wars?

    So what?

    I don’t care how Trump makes his decisions, I care about the end result of those decisions.

    All this long con over Trump’s “fitness” is based on is his management style; which is meaningless inside-inside gossip for the stupid and shallow to masturbate over – a hoax, a con, a carnival barker’s sideshow.

    How about if we focus on the substance for just a moment…

    Our economy is booming for the first time in a freakin’ decade, manufacturing jobs are finally coming back, North Korea has stopped launching missiles, the War on Terror feels like a bad memory, ISIS is no longer lighting people on fire, Putin’s adventurism has been halted, the rule of law is returning to the Supreme Court, someone is finally paying serious attention to the plight of the working class, were out of the Paris Hoax Treaty, the Iran Deal is dead, we’re not funding the Palestinians, we’re not transporting billions in cash to terrorist nations, the media are finally being treated like the Democrat operatives they are, the Obamacare mandate is dead, black and Hispanic unemployment has hit record lows, and, and, and…

    Look at that. Look at all of those accomplishments, all the substantive substance above and tell me again why I’m supposed to give even a scintilla of a damn about Trump’s style.

    Style over substance, style over substance, style over substance… That is the only thing this stupid maelstrom is all about…

    Trump’s enemies in the Deep State, the establishment media, and those Vichy Republicans in Never Trump, cannot touch Trump on substance, on his undeniable accomplishments, so they’re using anonymous sources and their own self-regard to try to gaslight us into believing style IS THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS.

    Okay, let’s talk about Trump’s style, his temperament, his approach to the rule of law, our vaunted institutions, and the First Amendment…

    Has Trump bent subordinates over the Resolute Desk to use them as his own personal humidor and then committed perjury? No, that was Bill Clinton’s style.

    Has Trump weaponized the IRS against the American people, left four Americans to die in Benghazi, run guns to Mexican drug lords, and spied on the national media? No, that was Barack Obama’s style.

    Has Trump politicized a funeral to fuel his petty grudges? No, that’s the McCain style.

    Has Trump launched a war of choice with no endgame? No, that was George W. Bush’s style.

    Has Trump been caught off guard by no less than the fall of the Soviet Union and 9/11; did he sucker us into an endless war because his intelligence was junk? No, that’s the Deep State’s style.

    Has Trump laundered money through a law firm to hire a foreigner to approach the Russians so they can fill a dossier with lies as a means to rig an election? No, that’s Hillary’s style.

    Has Trump lied to obtain warrants so he can abuse his power to surveill and spy on a presidential campaign? No, that’s the FBI’s style.

    Has Trump called for violence? No, that’s CNN’s style.

    Does Trump oversee an institution riddled with rapists? No, that’s Hollywood’s style.

    Is Trump in charge of an institution that covers up for and enables sexual predators? No, that’s the establishment media’s style.

    Does Trump stand silent as his audience boos rape victims? No, that’s Jake Tapper’s style.

    Those guilty of the above want to overturn an election because Trump refuses to take their crap, enjoys cheeseburgers, fires off tweets that haven’t been focus-grouped, wants to kill the monstrous Bashar al-Assad, protects our border, and might have yodeled in a porn star’s gully 13-years-ago.

    All I know is this…

    For the first time since those passenger planes hit the World Trade Center 17 long years ago, Trump has at long last returned America to peace and prosperity… Something so rare, no one under the age of 30 even remembers what it’s like.

    Well, let me tell you, I remember peace and prosperity, I recognize it when I see it, I see it now, and it is glorious and long overdue and hard-earned, and the guy who deserves the most credit for delivering it — all I can say is God bless his style, and goddamn the hysterics trying to gaslight me into caring about anything other than the substance his style delivers.
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  2. It certainly does show the levels some will go to when they do not get the candidate they wanted.
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  3. Even WaPo and NYT are having to report the truth....whatever next?:

    President Donald Trump has shifted the economy so that once-disregarded blue-collar manufacturing workers are now recovering jobs faster than coastal service-sector employees, theWashington Post acknowledged Sunday.
    “Blue-collar jobs are growing at their fastest rate in more than 30 years, helping fuel a hiring boom in many small towns and rural areas that are strong supporters of President Trump ahead of November’s mid-term elections,” said the Post, under the headline “Under Trump, the jobs boom has finally reached blue-collar workers. Will it last?”

    According to the Post:
    Rural employment grew at an annualized rate of 5.1 percent in the first quarter. Smaller metro areas grew 5.0 percent. That’s significantly larger than the 4.1 percent growth seen in large urban areas that recovered earlier from the Great Recession, according to an analysis by the Brookings Institution’s Metropolitan Policy Program of a separate set of Labor Department data released on Wednesday.
    In the past year, the economy has added 656,000 blue-collar jobs, compared to 1.7 million added in the services sector. But the rate of growth in blue-collar jobs is speeding up, while service-sector job growth has hovered around 1.3 percent over the past year.
    The New York Times is also admitting that Trump’s economic policies are reaching people outside the Democratic Party’s base of coastal cities — and is also saying pay raises could soon rise faster because companies and investors have run out of alternatives. On Sept 7, the Times reported:
    The headlines for the August job numbers released this morning are nothing but good. Employers added a robust 201,000 jobs, the unemployment rate remained at the rock-bottom level of 3.9 percent, and wages grew the fastest they have in nine years.
    There’s no doubt that this is the best economy in quite a long time for American workers, who by a wide range of measures can find a job more easily than they have in a decade …"
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  4. Guess who’s NOT telling the truth...

    ‘Whatever next?’ ;)


    #moron :upyeah:
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  5. Despite all the waffle and bluster from his minions on here, he is still a cvnt.
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  6. It’s Treason Friday! :D

    Paul Manafort pleads guilty to conspiracy against the United States...


    Worth noting that Trump & Manafort’s legal teams have been operating under a joint defence agreement (allowing them to share information about each other’s cases). This is typically appropriate where defendants are facing broadly the same charges... :thinkingface:
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  7. Except Manaforts case has nothing to do with Trump nor is it related to the Russia enquiry

    A new document outlining charges against Manafort was filed by Mueller earlier on Friday. It said Manafort conspired to defraud the US through offences including money laundering and tax fraud, and conspired to obstruct justice by witness tampering.

    He has admitted to money laundering and tax evasion in his own personal financial life and then trying to hide it.

    It's worth noting, that is factual from the washington dc trial where as yours is your desperate wish to attach anything to trump belied by the fact you post in no other thread in a motorcycle forum

    You may want to try again as I'm sure you will
  8. Trump approval slips into the 30's

    CNN have approval down to 36% down from 42% last month!

    Maybe the disastrous Afghanistan tactics of air superiority and endless bombing since Trump vowed to win the is too much like the Vietnam war and the people are losing faith? The so called Maximum Military Pressure, (intensified airstrikes and special forces raids) have brought no success. Thousands more US military have been sent bringing the total to14,000+. Last October, the then commander of US forces, John Nicholson, said a "tidal wave of air power" would also be unleashed and that this was "the beginning of the end for the Taliban". Seems the Commander in Chief was wrong. The Taliban control ever larger areas of the country and are still fighting and winning after 17 years.
  9. Two points:

    1. I didn’t say that the charges / guilty plea had anything to do with Trump. This news clearly relates to Paul Manafort. I did point out however that a Joint Defense Agreement suggests that Manafort and Trump share some element of legal jeopardy (not necessarily relating to these particular charges).

    2. The Special Counsel’s investigation is not over. Manafort’s plea deal includes an agreement to co-operate, something which Trump has been trying to prevent by hinting at a future pardon.

    Softly softly catchee fat orange monkey :D
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  10. Worth noting that Trump & Manafort’s legal teams have been operating under a joint defence agreement (allowing them to share information about each other’s cases). This is typically appropriate where defendants are facing broadly the same charges... :thinkingface:

    1 okay you never said that and implied both were the same, did you use the greek alphabet translator?

  11. Wouldn’t surprise me even slightly If he too is guilty of money laundering and tax evasion.
    He has already stated publicly that he considers the avoidance of tax to be his duty towards his employees and his family.
    If he feels no moral obligation to pay his fair share of tax, evasion is not a huge leap on from that.
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  12. Trumps said Manafort is a good man and he feels sorry for him. Right after Manafort was convicted of tax evasion which would have brought $15million into the public purse. If that is a not warped sense of fairness I don't what is.
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  13. There is a difference between tax avoidance and tax reduction. America traditionally where they cannot get a person for alledged offences and fail, tend to get people on tax though the irs, that's how they caught Capone
  14. Manafort was found guilty of five tax fraud charges, one charge of hiding foreign bank accounts and two counts of bank fraud. He faces a maximum of 80 years in prison.

    A very good man apparently!
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  15. It’s taken ages for Mueller to get Manafort to flip, and there’s no doubt - his cooperation deal is The Big One.

    Manafort was at the centre of the campaign and all things ‘Russia’. He was an eye-witness to the crucial Trump Tower ‘Adoption’ meeting...

    He now has to tell all.

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  16. Yeah - and aside from a few tax irregularities, Capone was a good guy right?

    Isn't it simply the case that criminal activities usually involve generating sizable amounts of $$$... They don't do it for the sheer hell of it. :laughing: Crime bosses typically don't (or even can't) declare that income, and they sure as hell don't want to pay tax on it...
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  17. I wonder if Trump will now start calling Manafort a dog and liar etc etc as he has with others who tell the truth and co operate with the police?

    As Manafort was at the meeting with the Russians & Donald Jnr, it is certainly possible that he has a tale to tell.
    From the BBC:

    "Although the White House downplays his importance to the campaign, Mr Manafort had top perch in the Trump team for key months in 2016.

    For instance, he was in the June Trump Tower meeting with Donald Trump Jr, Jared Kushner and Russian nationals that was originally billed as a chance to obtain damaging information Russia had on Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton. He took cryptic notes about that meeting that he now might be willing to discuss.

    After his August conviction on financial and tax fraud charges in Virginia, the prospect of Mr Manafort's walking away from his legal headaches a free man had been eliminated. It appears that the reality of additional legal expenses and possibly more prison time finally pushed the long-time Washington lobbyist to make a deal. This is probably exactly what the special counsel team had hoped for.

    Now the president, who tweeted last month that Mr Manafort was a "brave man" who "refused to break and make up stories in order to get a deal", is left to wonder what comes next.

    Manafort was charged by Mr Mueller last October. At trial, he was accused of using 31 foreign bank accounts in three different countries to evade taxes on millions of dollars.

    Prosecutors presented evidence of Manafort's luxurious lifestyle, saying it was only possible because of his bank and tax fraud.

    Following last month's conviction, President Trump praised his former campaign chairman for refusing to "break" under legal pressure.

    He tweeted he felt "very badly" for Manafort and lauded him for declining to "make up stories" to get a deal."
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  18. i the wife asks, it's fake news.
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