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Ducati World Première 2018 - Chat Thread

Discussion in 'Ducati General Discussion' started by Rob, Nov 5, 2017.

  1. My 2015 R has traction control and I don't want electronic suspension
     
  2. I can see them matching, if not exceeding the 226bhp of the Speciale (or an Akra equipped S or base model), though with a 100cc or so deficit in the capacity of the R's engine, it will have to have lighter internals I would assume, to be able to raise the rev limit. So same/more power, bespoke engine internals, spins up faster. If previous incarnations of the R are anything to go by, I would expect a rather miserly smattering of carbon. What else will it offer for the £35K asking price? I'm sure it will be a great bike, but in recent years, engine aside, there has not been much else to quantify the price unlike say the 998R, 749R, 999R and 1098R models that at least came with carbon bodywork and a few other extras as part of the deal. I would assume that since it will need to be sold with the stock Euro 4 dustbin attached, so as to offset the cost of the uprated engine and it's development, will the Akras come as part of the RRP or extra? Will mag wheels come as standard? It could conceivably include nothing but a very long shopping list to go with it, which would push the asking price way north of £40K. That's getting into seriously expensive territory and out of reach of all but the most dedicated trackday rider or affluent road user. A collectible missile for sure.
     
  3. My 2008 1098R has traction control. My point is that if the WSBK rules don't allow it for racing and you are building an homologation special to a budget, why would you include it ? I do suspect the V4R might not have electronic suspension. Just me speculating. Andy
     
  4. Well DES wasn't an option on the 1199R or later variants so unlikely it will be fitted and I am pretty sure it couldn't be homologated if it came with DES. You'd only have to remove it anyway, if you were intending to compete with the bike professionally. I'd sooner hope for those intending on buying one, that it at least comes with some tangible extras included, despite the obvious performance hike you would expect from the R. Will it also ditch the LED headlights in favour of normal headlights as per the Panigale V2R?
     
  5. Makes not a lot of difference to me if the V4R is worse then i will buy a secondhand S-Version or will buy a 226bhp Speciale as I'm sure they will be for sale at some stage and i will let someone else take the first hit and save a few grand as I'm sure they will not be going up in price
     
  6. I think traction control is pretty much a given these days whether homologation requires it or not.

    But I do think what we're getting at is given the budget how are they going to achieve what we are thinking given the previous R's specification vs the S. There are going to have to be some compromises here
     
  7. Does anyone know when they will be releasing a workshop manual for the V4 in PDF format, or is it a case of waiting for a blagged copy to surface on the internet?
     
  8. Looks pretty slim from the rear.

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  9. As far as I'm aware, workshop staff have yet to receive training on the V4 and this late in the year I do not expect that training to be corporately available until the new year. First bikes in dealerships when, March/April ? That'll be your timeframe. Andy
     
  10. Will the V4 Speciale be fitted with the race exhaust for customers to collect or is it in a boxed up kit and the standard exhaust fitted?
     
  11. You lot have day jobs? :joy:
     
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  12. V4SP delivered with EU4 compliant exhaust with Akrapovic race system in a box as the Superleggeras before it. Andy
     
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  13. My dealer offered to fit the full system to my S on delivery FOC but since I intend to rip it to bits on delivery I told them not to bother and I will do it myself.
     
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  14. nice to see it upright :laughing:
     
  15. Saw the range of V4 Panigale today at NEC. The speciale is so much better looking in the flesh, but the plain red is still not as good looking as V2, no where near.
     
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  16. Absolutely 100% agree, saw it yesterday.
     
  17. That looks incredible!!! love Gloss Black Ducati's
     
  18. Was at the NEC on Friday gone, v4 got loads of attention, but not from me. I was there for about 20 seconds.

    Looks unfinished , rushed and like a melted pilot whale ( not that i ever wish one of them to go through any hardship ! ). I think all in all its been a let down. And its not going to be like the 999, ppl hated it and then it grew on them ( no taste ! ) , and v4 looks dated - seriously, im not kidding ! Dont know why i think that.

    yeah big disappointment and 25k euro here for the stock model, get the boat ducati.

    between the leaks of a blubbery bike at a track, shambolic web launch and it falling over at the EICMA, not a great start for a new model. Plus calling it a panigale too was a no-no in my opinion.

    yeah, im out, most definitely.



    back end looks like a maserati 3200 gt - carboncopy ! All the way from 2002
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