I wished I’d done a bit of research before I brought the lithium. I have now read various posts and I’m still a bit confused. Can someone please put up some links of what is needed to do the conversion please.
Nothing. The Lithium job is a straight swap. As they are a bit smaller, you may have to put some packing in. It was supplied with mine and you need to buy a lithium charger.
It’s very simple. For bikes built post 2012, the regulator/rectifier is compatible with a Lithium chemistry battery. For bikes built before that, the regulator/rectifier is not suitable, IF it fails. Two things to note, lithium chemistry batteries are not brilliant in cold weather, they need to warm up and they don't like the constant drain of a tracker or alarm so benefit from being on a quality lithium battery specific maintainer. I have had a LiFe battery in a 2012 Diavel for several years with no issues, my V4 has one fitted BUT I won’t fit one to either my 2002MY 748R or my 2008 1098R without upgrading to a Shindengan rectifier. Andy
Due to mine being a 09 hyper I’m going to need to upgrade the reg/rec. I’ve read that there’s a lead you can buy from a triumph dealer that makes it all plug and play but just want a heads up on the parts I need to get inc the reg/rec. I’m aware that the new one will need a mounting plate made.
The lithium ion reg/rec conversion: https://www.motoelectrical.co.uk/ty...fr5qNucTaXNl2KIb7YriOxwTe_KR7j1RoCX3EQAvD_BwE https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/view/T2500676 It's plug and play.
There is a full explanation here, https://www.ducatiforum.co.uk/threads/mosfet-regulator-installation.68657/ done on a 1098. Same components required, just a bit of ingenuity to locate the part on your bike. Andy
Had many years out of my Lithium without any problems. As Perry says, you need do nothing. Never had a Lithium charger though as my bikes have no alarms and a Lithium will take 18 months to lose the same amount of charge that a normal battery loses in 3 months. You will get people who will tell you about them catching fire, but they have probably never had a Lithium on their bike and the one in their phone, laptop, tablet, GPS etc never set itself alight.
Because the Monster was one of three bikes, plus I had a car, it could do a month without being used. And because the lump needed a good thawk to get it turning over enough to fire, I used to keep it on a tender. Whether it was absolutely necessary, who knows? I just bought the tender to keep it charged and the company that told me he battery wouldn't guarantee it unless you had a lithium specific charger. I just went for a quiet life (well, not that quiet as it had a Akrapovic exhaust!).
Without wanting to stir the pot too much - folks who are anti lithium, what would you do if your bike came with one stock like a V4S does?
Do nothing, the charging system electrics on the V4 are absolutely fine and lithium chemistry compatible. Just don't skimp on a decent battery maintainer. Andy
No power in my garage though. Wonder if one of those portable battery things would have enough juice to trickle adequately for a couple of weeks at least..
I can't see how you can charge a 12v battery with another 12v battery. Help a vehicle with a low battery start yes but actually charge it? Don't know much a lithium batteries but I do know they charge only on a narrow voltage range. I just watched a couple of YouTube clips about lithium batteries going up in flames when being charged wrong or when the overcharging protection fails. Very impressive. If I ever get a vehicle with one of those I better get the right fire extinguisher too
I'm not aware of a single "anti lithium" ducati forum member or any such view being expressed. What has been expressed Ad nauseam are views that "I haven't had a fire yet, so it must be OK". Many threads have ended up in the wasteland / locked due to hot heads not reading the words as written, then reacting because they think someone has made them look like the village idiot. If the motorcycle was designed to have a multitude of battery technologies then use whatever the manufacturer says is acceptable. If it was designed to use a lead acid battery proceed with caution, take professional advice (preferably by someone with electrical design qualifications) and consider all the parameters that may lead to overheating of the battery or associated charge circuits. Personally I've seen how close to the edge some of these charge circuits are, with one poor member here having his lovely sports Ducati catch alight (full fire) due to a mismatched Lithium battery to his OEM charge circuit.
Thanks for the input, just trying to figure out best practice for my storage if I get myself a new bike next year. My garage is a rented lockup so no power, I guess I’ll just leave the battery to do what it wants and replace once it’s gone through enough charge cycles
Have just bought and moved to a house with a garage, an upgrade for me. Alas it has no power and is separate, not by much but crossing a private road, from the house. Solution for the time being is an Optimate solar charger. Only works with convential batteries though, not Lithium. Had a AntiGravity Lithium battery on my MV that I owned before the Multistrada. Worked great, still have it and the dedicated Optimate charger, not the correct fit for the Mutley unfortunately.
Put a lead acid on the bike for the purposes of the alarm / tracker (with Solar) etc over the winter and then switch back to Lithium for the Summer riding?
Be careful there the negative comments will come thick and fast as many of those start boosters have Lithium batteries and are sure to burst into flames as soon as you look at them.
