A place that I kept away from. I did se a 'boo-hoo' vid on YouTube saying feel sorry for the poor staff. These were staff that actively took part in signing up people to finance, raking in big commission. And when the government outlawed the commision rip-off model, we are all supposed to shed tears. "Tough Shit!", I say. Selling off finance repossessions bought dirt cheap at auctions, is not a model that I think we need.
I am taking a rest outside from garden clearance and look here on my phone. I seem to have upset two boohoos who are well signed up to the buy repossessions on finance model. if that reflects the majority here, so be it. i am insensitive to a crap, ripped dealer going bust, but that’s just me. I’ll keep quiet if that’s the type of dealer you feel that we need. Feel free to have a communal BooHoo. See if you can do it on finance.
As someone who spent 11 months out of work last year I have a bit more empathy than you seem to have for hundreds of people losing their jobs (whatever that job may be). Maybe thats just me but at a quick glance it doesn’t appear to be. Stick your boo hoo’s up your arse (and congratulations for finally working out how to use your own phone) x
Thats a bit harsh! I doubt very much that the sales people on the floor were involved in the finance at all. There would have been a "business manager" that put together the "offer". Plus all the garage techs that worked on the bikes and delivered them etc. Thats a lot of people out of a job. I think it's a shame for all them.
Nobody is forced to take finance we assume by the fact folks buying motorcycles have a full license, that they are adults and can make their own decisions. Plenty choices out there for borrowing money. Higher rates will be paid with a bad credit rating. Again, adults… That is a shit load of jobs gone in an already difficult industry. I wish ex employees best of luck with gainful employment without stress or a break in income.
I may be wrong (or might not) but if you worked for a company with a buy 'em cheap, stack 'em high, take a kick back from multiple finance companies model and didn't know or care and know that it's your customer that ultimately pays for this with more expensive finance, I think that your moral compass might be in need of a reset.. I think that finance (not specifically in this case) is becoming an issue these days. For example, I was mulling buying a new car. Finding out how much a new car actually cost is very, very difficult as everything is so much a month or week, like that is all that is important. Never for how long and what is the total because it doesn't matter. All you should care about is the cost per month. The End. DONE, FINITO, CAN YOU AFFORD THE MONTHLY PAYMENT IS ALL YOU NEED TO WORRY ABOUT. Even when I bought my BSA for cash, the guy is commanded to go through all the finance spiel while I have already told him I don't want finance as I am paying cash. I have to as they are the rules we have to follow! As I am happy with my car and have a bike that I like (plus Ducatis to get back on the road) I will actively avoid talking to salespeople for the rest of my days. I'm happy with that!
Owned by a private equity vehicle managed by a UK based “turnaround” investor since 2023. Clearly unable to turn the business around in this instance. Andy
Many people are just pleased to be in employment, with limited choices available to them. Just had a conversation with a good friend at the weekend, when we stopped for a coffee on a ride out. He is ex motor trade. It seems that there is a lack of respect for those that work in sales. People forget how hard they work, to achieve a deal, with prices always under pressure from consumers that want a ridiculous deal and fancy themselves as a bit of an Arthur Daley. Whilst the company in question may not have had a great reputation, that does not mean all employees were rogue. Far from it. Then, ask yourself why places like this exist? Because punters expect Rolls Royce for Mini prices. It has always been so. There are still good dealers out there. They tend to chargé a premium. For that you get more peace of mind.l
Probably because it's often not obvious what value they're adding to the deal. I am absolutely not a sales person, but a good one makes sure both sides gain from the deal, both sides understand what they're getting, and are happy before signing. A good one makes both parties feel like they've won/gained, so to speak. All too often, sales people attempt to twist the sale in their favour rather than a balanced sale (hidden charges*, no option to test ride, and lack of disclosure about bike history come to mind). Combine that with minimal effort because they're spinning 20 other plates, and it's no wonder buyers are deeply suspicious of them. In Superbike Factory's case the only gain for the customer was the low price, and the sales people had no say over changing that price, AFIAK. That's not selling, that's literally form filling. No service plan, no real warranty (outsourced), no interest in what you might do or want in a few months time. Get the bike out of the door, Ding - next! *I bought a bike from Superbike Factory Macclesfield in 2018, but they didn't tell me about the paperwork charge. I refused to pay, but they relented after 20-30 minutes of tedious irritating pressure (I'll have to ask the manager, blah blah - long wait), with me showing their eBay advert didn't mention additional charges, whereas their normal web site did. I definitely didn't rush back for my next bike, and they lost a possible second sale.
