Intermittent Error On Dash When Riding

What year/model Hyper?

 

Has it had the anti electronic surge update done? And the coils changed?
if you remove the front nose fairing and the dash you’ll see if it’s been done, there’ll be a small black box behind the dash about 1” x 1” x 1/2”. Or, with any luck it may even be noted in any service history you have.

 

Also, what errors?

 

It is a possibility. Certainly if the fix has not been done do it. It’s quite easy. The part you need is under £20. The coils are the most expensive part at c£100 each. By doing it, at the very least you’ll prevent it happening and save yourself the £350 repair fee for the dash. I’ll dig out the part numbers and instructions and share them later.

 

im glad you found it, I thought perhaps I’d written it but not posted it as I couldn’t find it. Can you point me too it please? I’ll bookmark it for the future.

For the relatively low cost of the anti-spike device and its relative ease of install I’d do it. Certainly, if it were a customer’s bike, and I’ve done 2 in the past 12 months, I’d insist on fitting it as well as ordering the coils from an 848; I wouldn’t want it to come back and bite me in the future.

Certainly the current coils Ducati sell for the Hyper range, whilst on their 2nd or 3rd iteration, are Beru ones and not Eldor. However, as the problem is well known, I trust Ducati (and MAE, the manufacturer of the dash) enough to believe there’s more to it than just using different coils. If that were the case I’m sure Ducati would have dropped the fix from their parts range and dropped the Beru coils and just told dealers and the public at large to fit the Eldor coils off the 848. I suspect, as it’s MAE (who make the dash) who provide the fix that MAE may very well be aware the pcb board within their dash doesn’t contain sufficient voltage spike protection, and yes you may still get a voltage spike across the canbus from the Eldor coils although perhaps not as severe as with the Beru. All just hypothesis & conjecture though on my part.

 

I’m still interested to know what error message is appearing when it does?

 

I'm assuming that the mention of 'throttle' here means the fbw twist-grip assembly??

 

If you go into the Settings Menu you can scroll to Errors and it should list anything there.

Good news on your anti-spike retro fit being done

 

A faulty, or failing, spark plug will only throw an error if the engine has knock sensors fitted. Even then it’s not the spark plug throwing the error but the knock sensor picking up and reporting a misfire. I haven’t checked the parts diag but I’m confident there are no knock sensors on your engine.

The plug itself is ‘dumb’ it doesn’t feed any signal back to the ECU. That plug isn’t the cause of your EML. It won’t hurt to fit a new plug though now it’s out. NGK MAR9A-J is the correct plug for your bike.

 

cant say for ducati but i have seen this back in my fiat days. incorrect plugs, or even a mismatch in age/millage of plugs would throw up all sorts of CAN and component errors. often injector circuit errors on the 2.4's . and could even cause the car to cut out on the smaller capacity fiats that used the same ecu's as ducati until either the errors were deleted or battery disconnected and then reconnected. i had one vehicle that took me an age to diagnose due to assuming it had been done properly elsewhere, you could draw a line on the road where it would cut out after resetting. it had two new plugs of one make, and two old of another.