If you read my ramblings and drivel, you’ll know I’ve not gelled 100% with the front end of my V4 Pikes Peak. I hated the OE Pirelli Rosso IV’s, the Metzeler M7RR’s give a marginal improvement but don’t give that bite on turn in that I’m looking for. I’m hoping the Roadsmart 4 GTs that are going on next week, might make a bigger difference but after a shower dodging, brisk ride this morning, I began to wonder if my lack of feeling might be down to the very light steering. Had a dig around on the internet and CNC offer what looks like a decently engineered steering damper kit. So, the question to the V4 Pikes Peak and V4 RS owners on here, do you feel the steering is a bit light ? Andy
I don’t think a steering damper will change anything. Have you thought about dropping the forks 10 to 15mm through the yokes? That will place more weight at the front but effectively shorten the wheelbase. I’ve yet to try it on the MTS, but it was a go to mod amongst Tuono riders.
I've tracked mine, had it flat out several times, I've found Park straight at Cadwell usually highlights light steering, the KTM SDR1290 I had used to be terrible coming out of the dip, speed wobble at 130+ isn't fun, I had to upgrade the damper on that, I haven't had my PP go light and wobbly at all through there, it's also pretty stable when the front wheel comes back down after after lifting off the ground as it accelerates, so IMO I don't feel I need a damper, but peoples weight, sitting/ riding style etc are all different
I've now covered 37k on my PP and I can't say I've ever felt the need for a steering damper, no head shakes or wobbles, always seems pretty well planted, plenty of feedback from the front end, either solo or 2 up fully loaded, standard geometry but after the oem Rosso 4's the only tyre I've used is Angel GT2's.
Watching this with interest - been thinking about a PP, but none of the later Multistradas I’ve ridden have had the same level of front end feel & feedback as my OG ‘10 model. Which is why I’ve probably got one of the last one owner 2010s on the planet!
I’m surprised the PP doesn’t come with a steering damper as standard, especially at that price level. I think you’ll find the Dunlops are a huge improvement but as you are well aware the GT’s are for heavier bikes so that may mean even stiffer carcasses. You’ll need to experiment with lower tyre pressures. Also, you’re probably sitting bolt upright on a V4, (normal) which will transfer pretty much all of your weight to the rear tyre, hence lighter steering. I found this site recently which was interesting. You can put your height etc in and it’ll confirm what you must already know about your sitting position. Although you’re slightly more prone with the PP compared to the standard V4. Why not input details of the older Multi you had and compare positions. No prizes for guessing the results. I’ve done everything I can to lean forward more on my Multi 1200s, therefore moving weight onto the front wheel. Seat on highest, lower bars, and let the forks up through the yokes. Have to say the upright position is one of my reservations about the V4.
One of the problems i found with the V4 was the reach to the bars. The large shape of the tank makes it difficult to get over the front end more.
Oddly, according to the figures, I’m leaning further forward on the Pikes Peak than I was on the 1200, go figure. Andy
But it doesnt mean you are further over the front, which i think is down to the longer reach to the bars. I sat my V4 next to a V2 Multi at the dealers a couple of years ago (V2 is very similar to DVT in size) and the longer reach to the bars was very noticeable. The V4 seat doesn't have much room to move back in the seat either.
I did a quick tot up, in full touring mode, I’m looking at an all up weight of about 400Kg. The tyres are fitted and I’ve set them at 2.3 bar ready for a test ride tomorrow. Andy
After the positive reviews of the 2025 V4 Pikes Peak, I’ve done a bit of digging to try and identify the differences in geometry which makes people think the handling is improved. As far as the information goes, the only difference I can see is the 2025 model has increased both the rake by 0.05° (25.75° vs 25.7°) and the wheelbase by 3mm (1595mm vs 1592mm). In every other aspect, they are the same. Given the measurement tolerance on the rake is +/- 0.25°, I can’t see 0.05° making any difference and has only been done to increase the wheelbase which might be an explanation why the new front end ‘feels’ different. Spoke to MR and they agree with the consensus on here that a steering damper isn’t the way forward, so let’s see if the new tyres make a discernible difference Andy
A planned ride to scrub the tyres in got cut short by a tropical downpour but, whilst I still think the steering needs more resistance, the Dunlop Roadsmart 4s have made a noticeable difference in the front end feel. I couldn’t really push on new tyres and a patchy wet/drying road but it seems the bike has lost the feeling it’s going to tuck on turn in. The GT is I think, still the right choice for touring fully loaded but in hindsight, the SP is probably the better choice for solo scratching. Hopefully better weather tomorrow so I can get some more miles on my favourite stretches of road. Andy
It’s amazing how the weight adds up. That’s touching 63 stone of rolling weight. Maybe the GT’s were a good idea. I’m not being rude, most people never calculate the all up weight but when you think about it flinging 400kg through some twisties is never going to be easy. However, these bikes and tyres deal with it. Experiment with the pressures, bold move starting at 2.3 bar. Who knows maybe you can bring them down a tad more with the stiffer carcasses. Until you load up of course. I’m pleased for you that you’re getting more feel from the RS 1V’s. They’ll be my next tyre on my Multi…unless of course I go for the Pikes Peak.
I found the Roadsmarts a dull handling tyre , typical Dunlop feel . I’m trying the T33 at this moment and find them very good . Good feel , stable and you can grind out with ease with edges left , the profile is sporty . Main reason is to find a tyre that will last more than 2000 miles before it goes off , think at this moment and 1000 miles in this may be the ones as little wear and no signs of road stress . I think at this point definate 3 to 3-5 k uk tyre and a 2-5k Euro tyre , think I may have found the solution for me . These have stiff walls but feel great on the road and grip well , not had one moment on them and have really been trying to make them slide and they won’t . Reached this conclusion with all rider aids set at min to get the feel without intervention. Still great .
this thread reminds me of the 1000s of tyre threads, everyone is different ...weight ,height, arm length etc etc... your asking Qs that might be good for 1 but not another, best scenario try it out for yourself and if it works or more likely feels better to you and your riding experience then happy days
I have great respect for the opinion of a number of contributors to this forum, some of whom ride a V4 Pikes Peak or an RS. If they have had a similar experience to me and found a solution, why reinvent the wheel ? As it transpires, my experience has not been shared, so I need to find a solution that works for me and the Dunlop Roadsmart 4s are a good starting point. Andy
The suggestion of dropping the front forks is a good starting point, easy to do, free and easy to revert back to default. I done this and made a massive difference, granted not the same model (DVT s/t) but fully loaded and 2up feels alot more planted.