If its never happened before, and the protocol has always worked, what did the management do incorrectly?
He only disagreed about the bit regarding me but he will be along to disagree in a mo, as he will be a lil bit embarrassed now
there was plenty to disagree with in it. but I am sure the confusion comes from jumping in half way through a convo.
no, not by square haggis chiz. but maybe they should built flats out of haggis as shit don't burn. actually, I fuggin love haggis. but some haggisis are beterer than other haggisis. Ooo, I think I see the problem. hagg isis. hmm. why hasn't the express made the connection?
I don’t know. And that’s kind of the point. I’m not an expert on such matters and I am certainly not in a position to replace the findings of an Inquiry that heard 6 months of evidence from those who made the decisions on the night, those involved on the ground, eye witnesses and expert witnesses with my own feelings and opinion. I also don’t agree that simply because firefighters risked their lives they get a pass and are exempt from criticism. That just leads to unaccountability and a form of institutional arrogance which helps nobody, but least of all helps the public on whose behalf the LFB work. And I definitely don’t agree that this Inquiries of this nature are merely “virtue signalling”. So when a residential building goes up like a match and 70 odd people die, are we supposed to just shrug and say “Oh well” or do we try to get to the bottom of how and why or happened, for no better reason than to try to make sure it doesn’t happen again?
The point, IMO, is linked to whether our not they followed procedures that were set out and in place and had been tried and tested. They did. Were they correct? No. With the hindsight we now have, and given the perfect storm that seems to have happened that killed those people, new guidelines are needed. But, that doesn't make it the service's fault or that of their management officers. Just seems to me we are locked into a world where, if the impossible-impossible happens, someone HAS to be accountable (to blame really, but thats a word that seems to be aligned to it now and sounds less judgemental). Report yes. Findings yes. Recommendations and timeline to implement them yes.
So he's been jailed and each year is costing £55-60k oh good. The American prison system has gone up 186% in the last 5years. Now on average the cost is (US Bureau of Prisons) $330,000 for a prisoner is usa_fascistland.
[ But it’s not the case that it was an impossible-impossible or hadn’t happened before. For example, the report specifically criticised LFB management for repeating mistakes made in a similar fatal fire in Peckham about 10 years ago. It also criticised poor communication, poor control room procedures, and inadequate training on cladding fires* and carrying out evacuations of tall buildings. Again, I don’t know if the criticisms are justified as although I watched quite a few of the hearings, read some of the transcripts of evidence, know a few of the lawyers involved and read the Phase 1 Report, I’m not an expert, but it did seem to me that the Inquiry was fair and thorough * Which they had been warned about, IIRC but don’t quote me, as I don’t have the report to hand, typing as I am by the side of road waiting for recovery to turn up to jump start my bike.
So sounds like protocol wasn't adhered to, that includes being suitably trained, and rather than 'lets lean how to improve' you're (the report) is suggesting they failed. In which case they should be accountable. IMHO this is quite a binary thing.
Nae nae and thrice nae...a quality haggis like a MacSween in natural casing is a luxury. And black pudding...there's none better than Stornaway. You don't want to burn either (just staying on topic).
Chalmers bakery - close to my location of work, deliver baked goods every Friday around 9 am - do a 'spectacular' Beef and black haggis pie. A winner of many awards in pie circles. So both haggis and black pudding are equal crowd pleasers. Just staying on topic
