Science was used in the Lithium battery threads, backed up by thermal images and reasoned electrical/electronic explanations; with no one actually disputing the facts as given ....but then "flat earth" members came in with "well I've never saw a problem on my bike, but then I never checked or looked at anything, but I still want to add I NEVER SAW A PROBLEM".
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....holographic-principle-universe-theory-physics https://www.southampton.ac.uk/news/2017/01/holographic-universe.page