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Being Senior

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by PerryL, Aug 30, 2021.

  1. I remember seeing a driver sit on the stairs sobbing with his head in his hands after someone jumped in front of his train in Thorton Heath. All I saw as we passed by was a policeman place a cover over a torso on the tracks.
     
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  2. You know Plod leave and a big percentage go and work in Rail industry?

    I think most Signallers and Train Drivers are ex-Police, around where I live.

    Whilst their union is to powerful and needs a bit of a beat down, it’s a great career for some. Especially signalling. My friend is barely 30 and she is earning after 5 years nearly £70,000. That’s a Police Superintendent level and almost double the national average, without much stress.

    Personally, I would hate to sit in a box for 12 hours.

    You come across as very opinionated, which is fine as do I, but I think you must truly understand the ins and outs before commenting with such comedy.
     
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  3. signallers have people’s lives in their hands
    It’s not a job for everyone sitting for 12 hrs in a box
    It’s a job that has gone wrong in my county and ended up killing a lady of a friend of mine.
    Some jobs come with great responsibility and a wage tag to compensate that.
     
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  4. I appreciate the risk and certainly wasn’t down playing the role. Just the mental aspect for me, I couldn’t do it.

    I’m like a wild ferret so travelling/being on the move is my thing.
     
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  5. Come on Guys, let’s be civil to each other. Life is too short
     
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  6. I had a google
    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/train-driver-rail-safety-ban-drink-drug-alcohol-test-fail-licence-a9246136.html?amp
    12 drivers over 18 months drunk and not acceptable and they don’t deserve the pay but
    The majority of train drivers do, it sounded like you were making a sweeping statement of all drivers which gobsmacked me in your posts
     
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  7. Agree please keep the name calling out of it and use a good counter post
     
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  8. NP Darth, I'll just ignore the twerp
     
  9. There were 1500 ish drink drivers in cars in 2020. Ergo all car drivers are drunks. Im not surprised he retired. His brain barely functions so as to keep his other organs going.
     
  10. Abusive posts (and connected or referencing them) have been deleted.

    Please keep on topic, no name calling or the thread will be closed.
     
  11. Point taken, though they were only the ones that were caught. I'm not suggesting there's a drinking culture amongst train drivers. But neither do they have the responsibilities or capabilities of a Pilot or Doctor. And plod and ambulance staff that have to pick up suicide remains from tracks are just as affected. Do they get anything like £60k+ a year?
     
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  12. To the administrators: I started this off with a rant at GWR and opened the floodgates. I don't know what you deleted in your attempt to keep order, but from my point of view, it has all been good fun.

    In my book, complaining about train drivers and the selfish so-and-sos who commit suicide in Slough is all fair game. And that is why I hold no position of responsibility anywhere!

    I'll try not to start another battle of words but I'm afraid that I cannot give any guarantees!!!
     
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  13. A specialist funeral directors pick up the remains of bodies off the track not ambulance staff
    Transport police take statements
    Specialist cleaning team clear the site
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  14. So that makes train jockeys seem grossly overpaid then. And how much do the funeral guys with the bags and buckets get paid? The initial trauma for the driver is over in seconds, funeral directors could be there for hours.
     
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  15. Both situations must be very hard for most people to deal with imo. I expect watching someone face explode across your train cab is appalling and coupled with the knowledge that you were the driver makes it unbearable for many. The high percentage who leave the train drivers profession after a suicide or accident are well known.

    Its arguably the funeral people who are underpaid?
     
  16. I probably didn’t help by quoting Train Driver salaries and conditions of services.

    Don’t really know much about pilots and aeroplane safety but modern trains and railway infrastructure is packed with safety features (incab and trackside) which makes it harder for a collision to occur although you wouldn’t get me in the drivers cab for £60k a year, my attention span is terrible.

    As an aside many years ago I was a railway ops inspector and attended 6-7 railway fatalities. In the Midlands we used the Co-Op funeral services to recover bodies from the railway but that couldn’t happen until we (BT Police and ops Inspectors) had located all the body parts.

    Happy days.
     
  17. I've noticed that too and had a mini-rant about it a while back. It's been going on long before Covid.

    To my absolute shock and horror, it was particularly prevalent the day after the Euros final when 3 trains in a row on the journey from Herts into London and then every single one of the trains on the return journey at rush hour were cancelled due to "driver unavailability" (AKA driver bone idleness and malingering). The trip I was doing usually takes about an hour/an hour and a quarter but the inbound journey took almost 3 hours and the outbound one, 4 hours.
     
  18. I agree with you Zhed, and I feel the same way about surgeons. Quite often your very important NHS op has to be cancelled due to the feckers being to busy lining their wallets even further doing hobles :mad:
     
  19. The trauma for a driver is never over
    Honestly I’m surprised at that reply
    My boy works for the railway and couldn’t believe what he was reading either
     
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