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Clutch Questions....

Discussion in 'Supersport (1974-2007)' started by Speedy23, Apr 1, 2021.

  1. ....and that is the problem. I luv it.....I can see that if the issues are sorted, I've got a really nice bike. Just a bit gutted, that's all. Are those rubber pulley housings readily available?

    I'll give the dealer a ring on Tuesday to see if we can come up with something. So now trying to run down some decent used parts.The hard plastic belt covers. Or are they cheap enough new?

    What models share the same engine? I'm guessing Monsters? So now trying to sort out a clutch....don't mind stock ..ain't got the dosh for a new slipper....

    What sort of ballpark price do you think I'm looking at?
     
    #21 Speedy23, Apr 4, 2021
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  2. All dry clutches are basically interchangeable. Later 1*98 have the same parts but a larger centre nut thread but otherwise same.
    All dry clutch covers are interchangeable.
    By the way, an STM 6 post 48t slipper assembly is cheaper than OEM parts.
    Not sure what you mean with the rubber pulley housings. Got a pic?
     
  3. Here you go...
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  4. And as an added bonus, the lower rear cover attachment point gone as well.....
     
  5. And here's one of the fecked clutch.... 20210403_173155.jpg
     
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  6. Looking at the rust on that clutch it would definitely benefit from stripping, a dam good clean & new plates ;)
     
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  7. tbh i have seen worse, open cover, salty roads ...

    if the slipper drum and ramps arent too hammered, get an stm or EVR 48tooth ally basket and plates set, they are far superior the 12 tooth design

    hard to tell from that photo but the belts look pretty new fwiw
     
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  8. Rubber grommets, although not brill, look very simple to sort.
    Ditto clutch. Looks shagged but parts may be salvageable.
    Did you look at the bike before purchase btw?
     
  9. stein dinse website is a good reference for parts as the diagrams are the same that ducati dealers use
    parts are showing available
    would check local ducati dealers for price you might be suprised
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  10. To me, it all appears as normal wear and used condition for a 20 year old bike. It just needs a bit of love and a good deep cleaning. I do not see a dealer do that. It’s too time consuming and customers are rarely willing to pay for this many hours to get a dealer restore this type of bike. SSie are quite low value at the moment. It makes them affordable at purchase, but they are still Supersport Ducati’s, and require proper maintenance to run well. Which does not come cheap.

    Now you, as the new owner, are the ideal person to tidy your bike. You’re not a mechanic? Get the books (Ducati Shop manual, Haynes, LT Snyder D2/D3 maintenance guide), read the forums, watch videos, and slowly start discovering what your bike is made of. You can find pretty much every spare parts online. Stein Dise is one example. But there are plenty of others.

    https://www.carlsalter.com/ducati-service-manuals.asp

    https://desmotimes.com/

    https://shop.oemducati.com/en/products/supersport/2001-2/supersport-900

    I’d venture to say that 50% of the pleasure of owning a not so new Ducati comes from the time spent learning how to work on it in the garage. At least that’s how I feel. You may have to get yourself some tools, decent ones, but that can be done little by little. Clutch maintenance is something pretty simple and straight forward, a good place to start.

    Only negative here: bad timing buying that bike now, as the riding season is just starting. Hence the frustration, I guess. Tidying, cleaning and maintenance are best done during winter months, not rushed. ;)
     
    #30 Guillaume69, Apr 5, 2021
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  11. Hi Ricky, It was a bit difficult with lockdown, etc. As I said before, maybe I read too much into assurances of 100 point checks and specialists....I suppose strictly speaking, just because you check something doesn't mean that you actually do anything about it!

    Given what's happened so far, I suppose the only thing to do with the clutch is to whip it apart and have a good look at it. But I'm guessing at least a new basket and friction plates.....
     
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  12. Hey Guillaume...

    You're dead on. Frustration 'cos it's the start of the season and I got this bike 'cos my main ride is dead at the moment.

    Thanks for the links. Very useful.

    Though I say it myself, not too bad with the spanners - I've done more than a few complete engine strip and rebuilds over the years, and in fact just got from ebay a set of 2-valve tools (puller, offset CH nut spanners, clutch holder, etc.) so 'praps I could see this unfolding. Yeah I love tinkering with bikes and I can see my relationship with this one developing......

    I agree - bikes that demand a little bit of owner input are much more satisfying when you get 'em running right. And, I think, that's when you become a marque devotee, if that doesn't sound too daft...

    So I'm very much in the learning phase at the moment. Thanks to all who have replied - it's put my concerns into perspective. And, if it makes any difference, I still like the bike....just looking at it, in the (highly inaccurate) words of Hunter S Thompson, it looks like it's doing 100 mph while it's just stood in the garage....

    So thanks for admitting me to the fold and the help and comments offered (and appreciated!) so far.

    Once again, my decision to join this forum vindicated.

    S23.
     
    #32 Speedy23, Apr 5, 2021
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  13. Clutch's are fun to do. Because they're relatively simple and they're on/off in moments. (as long as you have the right tools) I use one of these as a holder tool. But you can also take an old drive and plane plate, drill some holes, screw them together along with a bit of flat for the handle and make your own. That one of yours just needs a good clean and service. I'd be inclined to buy new plates myself but they may be serviceable. They do stand up well to abuse.
     
  14. Whenever I buy a new bike, I always expect to find something gash on it or something I’m not happy with. This is part of the fun for me.
    I always employ my personal Rule Number 1 which is “Trust nobody...not even yourself”.

    I have had some shockers on second hand bikes:
    Chain too short so the tyre is rubbing on the swing arm (1098R)
    Rearset attachment bolts so loose that when I came back from first ride around block they were just about to fall off (916SPS)
    Brake master cylinder and kill switch swapped around - annoying (749R)
    All easily resolved in a satisfying manner.

    Looking at your rubber belt attachment brackets, looks like you probably need to take the belts off to replace these so factor in a belt change - dead easy on a 2V.
     
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  15. Your basket doesn't look that bad to me, I've seen worse
     
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  16. Thanks for the copy & paste @Carr01 :upyeah:. That article was created to assist all, it would be nice if a link could go into this place as well and I’m happy for it to be linked to within here. I won’t post the link myself without permission as it will probably just be deleted :(.

    @Speedy23 dismantle the clutch and see what can be salvaged before shelling out money, you’d be surprised what some 400 grit wet & dry paper and elbow grease can achieve :upyeah:
     
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  17. Heretic, burn him
     
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  18. Great write up , shame about the missing pics, ad a new 749 owner with a loud clutch this has helped give an insight and courage to have a go myself
    Where do you go for parts. Clutches /baskets ,clutch holding tool etc
     
  19. All the bits you mention are available new, used, or can be replaced with upgraded parts, meaning everywhere from ebay through to ads on this forum, specialists like Evotech and Bucci right to your local Ducati dealers will be able to help, once you decide how much you want to spend and on what exactly.
    For harder to get parts, Stein Dinse. https://www.stein-dinse.com/en/category-1-c118.html can be useful.
    And don’t forget, Ducati dry clutches should be loud.
    Part of the experience is to explain to people who ask “What’s wrong with that, why is it making that noise?” that “It’s a Ducati; it’s supposed to sound like that”
     
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