Arse back against the seat hump. Seam of the seat in your bum crack and your sternum inline with the inside fork leg. Your weight should be taken on your outside knee NOT your arms which should be relaxed or you'll transmit all sorts of unwanted forces to the steering and unsettle the bike. If you don't sit far enough back your knee may not be in the right position to lock into the tank indent. If you're too far forward you'll be trying to take you weight on your inner thigh rather than your knee which is hard work and makes you feel insecure. You'll transfer weight to your arms instead and you'll probably be twisting your body away from the corner instead of keeping it parallel to the axis of the bike with your head and eyes leading the bike into the turn.
There's a lot of riding coaches, and some of them big names like Corser, who go totally against this and suggested being against the tank while braking and Corning is better and only reason to slide back is on long straights to tuck in. E.g.
Not sure they should be when hanging off that low, as your elbow needs to be far lower than the bar. Too much weight (ie tension!) thorough the inside bar will push it wide iirc
On all the "instructional" track days I've done, the advice was to go away and put what I'd been shown into practice on the roads. Would also like a copy of that PDF if you find it.
It was a riding coach and racer who told me to sit back and very recently too. Worked for me then in the training session and still does on the road. I've been faster and smoother ever since. Still plenty of room for improvement but with that technique I can hang off my adventure bike now without unsettling it. I couldn't before and general bike control is vastly improved by having relaxed arms. You should be able to put the bike on a stand and hang off it with your hands behind your back. I guarantee you won't be able to if you're sitting high on the tank and I bet your body will twist away from the turn. If it does your foot and pegs will go down before your knee is anywhere close and if you keep pushing you'll be off.
Good. Really good. Really like the track and setup with cafe etc. 2 hour ride is my max though before a TD. Much better than Brands Indy. Was very similar to Bedford which is an hour closer than me. Weather was stunning. Oggies was the hardest corner, kept going in to hot to start with. Only went off once today! Was at Oggies.
Had a kneedown day with 121 (I2I?), he encouraged moving back in the seat. Sounded wrong but it worked for kneedown. Hasnt happened since on the road though (knee touching down)**. Also I feel much more comfortable over the front end than over the back wheel. Had a track day at Blyton park on the multistrada. Held my own in fastish company (fireblades) but came away confused tbh as didnt think was leaning 'that far' , they did say too hang off more. This does help for hitting the throttle earlier on corner exit because the bike is already more upright. ** Seems like the more I hang off, the more upright the bike is, the more I need to lean... chicken and egg suppose. Some day I will get someone to follow and video so can see exactly what is going on! Also followed different riders over the years who got their knee down, looked bloody awesome, but no quicker.
That is the point. Means when you eventually make the old lean angles, you are going way faster #thumbsupneeded
^^Yep, understood that and it defo increased speed around Blyton. Was also fascinating to increase speed as the day went on and see how the line you took through a corner for turn in point etc changed as the pace increased. Eye opener indeed.
Never had my knee down but was grinding the 848 pegs round clearways at Brands. Must have crap body positioning. I tend not to even bother sticking my knee out anymore and still ride as fast as fast mates.
