EV's are the stepping stone IMO.... I saw the BBC post earlier, which covered my point on other forums, how do people in flats/apartments get to charge, or if you live in a congested street with no off street parking? Their alternative is to charge at work, when shopping, somewhere else and as the BBC post shows they will currently get penalised at a much higher tariff... Let alone the under investment of the national grid to support the demand that is looming. And then there's this.... something we have yet to experience... Or this Yes, really... Bike wise, Bike world recently tested the HD live wire, max range 100 miles, min range 67 miles!!! And if you watched the long way up on Apple TV you would see how poor they are in cold conditions, less than 50 miles.
Well, I’m getting an EV as a company car. With a BIK of 2% until 2025, be daft not to. I don’t do many miles though, will have an 11kw charger at work & have 3 50kw within 1 mile. Tested a few: Tesla 3p, Audi Q4, Polestar 2, Jaguar iPace. Going for the iPace, but would have gone Tesla if the Model Y was available.
Transporter specialist I’ve dealt with had one on loan (ev transporter). They never managed more than 80 miles to a charge what good is that on a commercial vehicle ffs
EV's are definitely a stepping stone. In years to come we'll look back and laugh at attempt to go green. JCB are investing heavily in to hydrogen.
Friend in work showed me a post on F/B about a field near Paris full of failed e/c cars. Apparently the batteries cost more than a new car, and there’s no waste site willing to take the spent batteries ?
That was proved to be fake, one of the pictures was from China and anyway it was to do with a car share company losing the contract or going bust or something........
The company I work for are trialing electric vans, the best they got out of a VW transporter was 80miles and Vauxhall recon theirs will do 200miles! (probably in the summer, on a 200 mile hill and empty of any load) They asked me if I would have one as I park my van on my drive, they would pay for the charger install and it would be metered so they could pay me back for the used electric but they came unstuck when I asked at what rate they would pay me because I have solar panels that I sell my unused electric back to the grid at like x10 what I pay for it so if my unused electric is charging your van I'm out of pocket?
They’re bloody dangerous... I nearly got hit by an Amazon electric van the other week, I just didn’t hear a thing.. X
It makes me laugh when I see the green washing ads promoting electric vehicles (“consume yet more shiny new stuff to fill the aching void within!”). They may be zero emissions at the non-existent tailpipe which improves the air quality for people living in well off western cities, but what about all the poor fkers living like mice packed into Chinese megacities where most of the components are made in factories with few if any pollution controls that are run using vast amounts of energy supplied by coal fired power stations? Or the countries whose water courses have been poisoned by the heavy metals that are mined for battery production? What happens to the vehicles that are replaced by EVs? Yet more waste, yet more serviceable stuff which is either buried in the ground, thrown into the sea or, best case scenario, vast amounts of energy are expended in recycling it. The simple fact is that there are too many of us who are using far too much stuff and we need to live more frugally. Unfortunately that idea is contrary to our evolutionary/survival drives to get and keep more stuff and anathema to corporations and the major powers (US, China, EU, Russia, India) who rely on year on year economic growth to survive. As usual, all humanity is doing is giving in to its baser “oooh, shiny - gimme that” instincts while pretending there’s some altruistic motive. It’s little more than rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic and giving ourselves a big virtue signalling pat on the back while doing so.
And yes, as a lover of eBikes (bicycles, not motorbikes), I do realise this makes me something of a hypocrite but part of the reason for buying them was so I could reduce my and my kids’ use of large, heavy, energy hungry internal combustion vehicles for errands and commuting. I can fit almost as much shopping in the 2 canvas WW1 army surplus panniers and a rucksack as I can into the boot of my car.
Curb weight: 1,745 to 1,844 kg tesla model 3 Citroen C1 around 850 kilos. Spot another problem? I am in the process of researching a replacement car, mid size suv or estate. Diesel. seeing what is on the market for a few weeks time. Diesel, got to be careful for adblue systems. Some worse than others. hybrids? Non believer as they seem to be no better (sometimes worse) for fuel consumption frequently with poor performance, with added complexity. Petrol? ffs, lack of torque or heavy on fuel in general for mid suv size, golf estate, maybe, Octavia with 1.0tsi..no thanks. The penny should surely have dropped that meeting emissions is causing emissions. Reduce weight and performance. Stop measuring emissions at specific engine sped and road speed. Look at the damage caused in production of vehicle. Service life of vehicle (including cat, emissions control devices) and factor in. No rocket science required. Elecy not even on the radar. htf will I travel from south France to NE England? Two day trip in a real car.
Chatting to Dibble today and he mentioned onto car subscription. Seems a great way to try an electric car and see if it’s suitable. Worth a Google
I watched the video posted above and it makes interesting viewing, a 20T crane will need 9T of batteries to enable the daily hours usage that it's ICE equivalent does, but you cannot charge 9T of batteries within the free time, thus the need for an alternative fuel source. But what about the weight increase... so your 20T crane is now 29T, but that's without strengthening a multitude of components to cope with the additional weight, so let's say mid 30's How many roads, farms, building sites etc can support 30+ tonnes day in day out? Our roads are bad enough without your usual family hatchback now being double the weight, so they'll be a knock on on the highways when the volume of EV's increases.......
I have a Model 3 Long Range as a company car. Once you get used to the mindset of charging and planning journeys to take this into account. I have to say I really enjoy the experience, the car has been faultless, fast and comfortable. I do have a Jaguar and my Ducati to assuage my petrol needs though. The main reason for Tesla isthe Supercharging Network it is far superior to anything else out there at present.
With the change from ice vehicles HMG are due to lose many billions of tax revenues each year, no road tax, no fuel duty or fuel VAT. So somehow the government must get this, and some more (it's always more) from the general public. Will this fall on the general taxation regime or on electric vehicles? Any thoughts?
There's a big discussion around this on Pistonheads currently... I've not read it fully, but I am led to believe that all new EV's from 2022 have to have some form of vehicle tracking as standard, there's uproar over there on this, but the way I perceive your question is that the data will be used to apply a tax to each vehicle for the miles covered etc. There's lots of unanswered questions here regarding costs, if you can charge at home on any tariff it's considerably cheaper than charging using public chargers, so anyone who cannot charge at home (estimates suggest 30%) they will be paying more for their fuel source, how does that work?? Can you imagine there being 2 petrol prices at the pumps?
Is the tracking system not the same as mandatory speed limiters for all cars registered after 2022? They will have a "by-pass" fitted. For the moment.......
Going back to EV and bikes, has anyone seen the Damon motorcycles.... interesting, but you still have the charging issues
