I Think The Days Bikes Rule The Roast At The Lights Coming To An End

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by MaDProFF, Nov 17, 2017.

  1. But can it filter ?

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  2. Increasingly vehicles, and everything else, will be designed and manufactured with end of life recycling in mind.
     
  3. Lightening 218LC would still nail it all the way too 218mph.
     
  4. I have asked this question to myself as well, still not going to stop me being a battery car next though, it is by far the best option now for price, running cost, BIK, against performance cars using petrol.
     
  5. Remember Batteries are recyclable, and tesla have a use for the battery after their life in a car so they say.
     
  6. Another Question I ask myself, we still see many classic bikes and cars on the road that should and probably always work to a point for ever, even more so today with a demand for 50 year old cars and bikes, but a full battery car, that must have some form of a life cycle where one day it will not run, though I guess an electric motor is an electric motor so they may will be different ways to power it in the future, just not the first way it was manufactured.

    Then with the way technology has changed over such a short period in the last 10 years maybe by 2040 you only need a small percentage of batters to get more power and range, with solar etc.
     
  7. At the Watford gap the other week a bloke was sat in his fancy eco car charging and looking really bored.

    And electric bike will beat electric car from light.
     
  8. @Cream_Revenge hmm not sure I would want to be on any bike that goes from 0-60 in 1.9 secs as for beating suppose you have to look sub 1.9 that is dam quick, and I bet Tesla with some software changes can make it faster, they chopped off a second off all their cars recently. even some that had all ready been produced.
     
  9. Pussy. Of course you would. Would be like a "launch coaster".
     
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  10. There is some kudo's being the fastest to the next charging point then waiting hours before you can move again
     
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  11. All electric vehicles will have a giant red ‘stop’ button fitted to the roof/tail unit.
    McPint will be chief tester.
     
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  12. My beer is, I'm sure as I live in a hard water area that I've drunk the same beer at least 7 times.
     
  13. Crazy figures. My mate was the sales manager for Tesla UK when the previous roadster was (unsuccessfully) being produced several years back and even that was crazy bury you in the seat torque.
    I think about where it's all going with all the inevitable computer assistance with electric cars and can't make my mind up. I bought a manual 911 because I wanted a (more or less) bare bones driver does everything car to enjoy driving and learn more and I ride the R6 for similar reasons. All that said if I bought a brand new 911 gt3 I think I would actually seriously consider a PDK gearbox. I found the Cayman GTS with PDK a little boring but I reckon a GT3 would be so exciting you wouldn’t miss the manual box. I’m thinking it might be the same with these electric cars. They are so quick that you’re too busy pointing them in the right direction to worry about missing sticks and buttons!
     
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  14. Yeah not too sure you are keeping up with the news, 80% Charge in 30/45 minutes, and some with ranges of 500/600 miles soon to be released, so unless you are doing an obscene yearly milage, over night charge only ever needed.
     
  15. I am keeping up, would I be correct in saying however that these batteries life span are drastically reduced when they are fast charged, in some cases where fast charges are used often, reducing the battery life by 50% ? Their optimal life span is when they are slow charged.
     
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  16. Its all bollox, elecy car sales on the rise. 2 charging points at Scottish corner services. 1 in main car park in my local small town.
    I stand by my business plan, diesel engined recovery truck for when these poor bstads are out of power. Going to be minted !
     
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  17. @noobie think that was the case a quite a few years ago, but battery technology has changed a lot regarding charging, and most manufactures are offering 8 yr warranty on the batteries, unlimited milage, cannot imagine they would risk that if you fast charge all the time, and they lost 50% of there life.
    Still that said not many battery cars are that old yet so the will tell I guess.
     
  18. All comes back to the central infrastructure problem. Garages will add them, supermarkets etc so that’s easy. It’s the 10m inner city homes, where parking is a nightmare to start, that are the impossible challenge. Even if you allocated parking, that would make it impossible for anyone else to visit anything non remotely or have large open green areas paved for parking.

    I am pretty dim, yet that’s obvious even to me.
     
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  19. @ mad

    I thought the most current information on battery life would not be the distorted tesla but more the nissan leaf from Nissan's own website under their performance and battery section https://www.nissan.co.uk/vehicles/new-vehicles/leaf/battery-performance.html

    This bit stood out Choose a LEAF with the 30kWh battery pack and the cover specifically for capacity loss on the lithium-ion battery increases to eight years or 100,000 miles.

    As a guess and bearing in mind the 30 kwh is the more expensive option over the 24 kwh fitted to most cars, then for me it looks like the life of the car will be no more than 8 years or 100,000 mles as a full pack replacement after that could be more than the price of the car?

    Currently on the bay of evil I have on watch for a possible purchase a 1993 audi 80 and a mercedes 300e 1991. I haven't seen a lot of long term projections for electric cars and I doubt at the moment, one would still be able to run like a top some 26 years later? On that basis so far, the environmental benefit could be that we have to build 3 electric cars for 1 petrol lifespan
     
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  20. Hey Tim


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