Motogp Press Conference

I predict that the riders will ride for themselves - as usual.

I suspect that they are less concerned with whether "justice is served" and about how the fans feel about all of this stuff. The riders are just going to ride with a view to securing or improving their own futures. I would suggest that it's only the fans, and riders directly involved in this circus, who are tying themselves in knots. The other riders will be concentrating mostly on their own game-plans.

 

Pro rata (years in the top flight) hasn't MM appeared an equal number of times on the cover of this tome? Just asking before you attack

 

I suspect (but that is all it is - I don't know) that the other Italians will roll over quite easily if they know they have VR up their tailpipe.

I am sure that all the riders ride as hard as they can, but am not sure that they are "tired of the VR circus" or even if they think about it much.

What is sure is that VR is good for MotoGP and therefore for the sponsorship budgets and the remuneration of the other riders. He is the biggest marketing vehicle that MotoGP possesses. The other riders may not even care about this, but it is better for all that Rossi is competitive and on a competitive bike. His wilderness years at Ducati didn't do the sport any favours.

 

I'm not in attacking mood. :Angelic:

Here's the link, but I've extracted the quote below. It just got me thinking.

Doctored: MotoGP’s Obsession with Valentino Rossi – Part 2 | Trunk Talk

Quote :
Motorcycle News is a weekly newspaper printed in the UK that does what it says on the tin. Road tests, news, sport and so on. Every week. It is, to many, the motorcycle bible of the UK and on the whole, it’s a great read. It also has a dedicated magazine, MCN Sport, that comes out quarterly. It’s aim is to focus on the entire world of motorcycle racing from MotoGP to the Isle of Mann to Speedway. It’s a well put together publication with articles by some of the most respected motorcycle journos out there like Matt Oxley and Neil Spalding. It also has some truly stunning photography in it and excellent regular retro articles. But, since it returned to newsstands in late 2009 there have been 21 issues. Valentino Rossi has appeared as the cover star 10 times. If you discount the annual IOM TT special issues, you’re looking at Rossi being on the cover around two thirds of the time. That’s also not including his smaller appearances on numerous other covers, though not as the feature.
In that same time, across those sixteen issues, Casey Stoner graced the cover once. Jorge Lorenzo, not at all as a featured star but did appear standing behind Rossi, with Stoner, on one occasion. During the time period of these publications Valentino Rossi won 4 GPs and no titles.. Lorenzo won 33 races and two world titles. Stoner won 18, a title plus he announced his retirement in 2012. To be fair, Marc Marquez graced two covers in this period for his four titles and 45 wins, but that’s still well short of Rossi’s coverage. In fact, just for a silly bit of maths, if Marquez graced a cover at the same percentage, per win, as Rossi, he’d have been on over 110 covers by now. Which is obviously absurd but it illustrates my point. This for a magazine claiming to cover all of motorcycling racing. This is a massive problem.

 

How many of the current crop of MGP riders head over to his ranch for a play and some coaching?

Is there anything in the rules for him to wait til he's caught by lorenzo then have a play with him (oops I braked too hard and locked the front, sorry to Jorge for takimg him down, I didt see the blue flag like he didnt see the yellow at Sepang)

 

I'd agree with that, and I'm on record as saying so. But if you were riding against him week in week out, and you had results or performances go virtually unnoticed because the focus is so much on him, how would you feel about him? I really don't know is why I ask.

 

I was right to presume then :Angelic:

 

No idea why you would question it. You always presume to be right

 

I could certainly imagine that Lorenzo has a chip on his shoulder about him. I don't think MM did, but I bet he has now. As for the others, I doubt it. Maybe Stoner did (almost certainly...) but Pedders? And who else could justifiably think that they were being hard done-by? You'd have to be beating him regularly to complain.

When you go to a race, you really see the extent of the VR support. It is massive. This is not only because he is the winningest rider, but also because he is the most charismatic and articulate. That's what puts bums on seats and torsos into t-shirts. Looking back, Doohan, Rainey, Lawson or Gardner were not cuddly people. Schwantz was the closest to a Rossi in terms of charisma, and his popularity far outweighed his actual results.

 

[. This is a massive problem.[/QUOTE]
how so? david beckham may have graced more covers than was in proportion to his skills and achievements .. (dont even know if that is correct england but you get the point) still does and hes a has been!
if the media take to someone because they are marketable /personable or a draw card is it wrong? i think celebrity for celebrities sake is but this aint the case here. if rossi's face sells more mags and gets more people interested in the sport then it can only be good for those prepared to invest in it and those that like the sport. thank fuck we have future poster boys coming through or there might not even be a race series

 

Funny i dont think motogp will die because rossi retires the series doesnt hang on him been in it.[/QUOTE]
that wasnt really my point. op said it was a massive problem. cant see how rossi grabbing more front pages than say stoner is a prob even if stoner was doing better in the series at the time. If his face sold more mags than stoner's why the fuck would they put stoners ugly mug on it despite his achievements? if you think when rossi does retire that there is no need for another focal point in this sport then i dont know what to tell ya....

 

Rossi - the best thing to happen to motogp in the last ten year. Conversley. Rossi the worst thing to happen to motogp in the last 10 days.

Lets hope by next week that all bitterness is buried and no favours are given to anyone offer this last racing weekend of 2015. Im a fan and a participant of he sport and the vitriol emerging over the last 10 days has been sickening. Motorcycle racing is a minority sport and I hope it stays that way, as the limelight brought on by riders on and off track professional antics has encouraged the football supporter type masses out of their tabloid press submerged lives has left foul taste in my mouth. Any further legal actions by the teams or riders will only add to the stench.

 

that wasnt really my point. op said it was a massive problem. cant see how rossi grabbing more front pages than say stoner is a prob even if stoner was doing better in the series at the time. If his face sold more mags than stoner's why the fuck would they put stoners ugly mug on it despite his achievements? if you think when rossi does retire that there is no need for another focal point in this sport then i dont know what to tell ya....[/QUOTE]

Why Rossi is on the front page could be down to the Wayne Rooney effect. You know the one , lowest common denominator to appeal to the uneducated masses

 

Why Rossi is on the front page could be down to the Wayne Rooney effect. You know the one , lowest common denominator to appeal to the uneducated masses[/QUOTE]
maybe dude. dont really matter though does it?

 

So would you buy a magazine if stoner was the cover? It shouldnt make any diffrence if your a fan of the sport.[/QUOTE]
If he comes back it would be fab - not that I'm a fan of anyone other then bike racing itself - and TIG welders from Hull. Have you not set off yet, you'll be late!!! :Wideyed: