not really,, maybe if you are part of the NO camp who everybody else knew were being fooled and used then for sure it is a disaster but for he rest of us it is no surprise , and will surelly just be another nail in the eventual coffin of unionisim.
Same old same old... Nationalists don't like having a "Tory" (English) budget imposed on Scotland but they jump up and down with glee clutching themselves at the thought of the SNP holding the balance of power at Westminster and imposing a dose of Scottish socialism on England. This is never going to work. Hold another referendum ASAP and get it right this time. We'll all be much happier. Do it soon and I'll come up and get on the electoral role myself to help you out with another YES.
yep,,, second that . ( pity tho because he does have some good policies, apart from his " NO " stance )
C'mon lads. Scotland voted NO. Get over it. Time is a healer. You'll all be ordering your Eng-er-land footie shirts for Euro 2016
I always thought that Jim Murphy came across as that old fashioned thing, a conviction politician. This doesn't mean that I agree with him, but he does talk sense in relation to things like Trident
Been away a bit. Bradders is spot on I the super rich piss off, someone else will take their place. They are not the only people with talent. More often they were fortunate. If Starbucks left, someone else would open a coffee shop in its place. You see this everywhere. There are oil platforms offshore once owned by the likes of BP which are now owned by smaller more innovative companies that develop technologies to extend field life. But back on topic. Domestic abuse act was law in a Scotland in 2011. For England and Wales it will be 2015.... Maybe. Don't get me wrong I love England and its people are as friendly as you could wish to meet, but it's being ruined by wankers.
It's not Glee Bud, it's irony. Having the likes of SCameron and Sillyband constantly going on about being stronger an better together, being more than the some of the parts etc..... Watch all that dissolve in a hung parliament with the SNP holding balance of power with 50 seats. Your very own posts could not be any less "better together".
Nothing better together about me. I've thought for years the Union should be disbanded and the countries of the UK better off as sovereign states in a federal alliance. Better Together made me sick with their wheedling and hand-wringing and snivelling "please don't go". If it was me I'd have said bloody good idea. We'll do the same lets sort out the details like men and get on with it. We are not better together. If you think you're sick of living under governments you didn't vote for, governing in the interests of parts of the country that are alien to you, you don't know the half of it. We have to put up with that bunch of metro-sexual limp-dicks in Westminster as well. And then there's the master government in Brussels. Didn't vote for those shysters either, and more to the point nor did anyone else. What grates about the jeering and middle finger waving we sometimes get from a few in Scotland is that if they only knew it they'd have a lot of allies in England. Our political sympathies may vary but constitutionally, an awful lot of people in the UK are not happy. We have that in common.
I would agree with most of that with the exception of allies. England's Left has turned a blind eye on many occasions: two examples being the poll tax and Trident. It was interesting reading newspapers online for SW England when it looked like Trident was sailing that way. There was uproar. Its ok for me though.....apparently....only 30 miles away.....constantly failing HSE and SEPA inspections...However, at the end of the day there is no point in complaining about others inaction if you are not prepared to take control of your own affairs and accept responsibility. By May 2015 we will have a shambles. The way the polls are now a minority government, probably Labour, supported by the SNP on UK only votes, but on the condition Trident is scrapped. Can't see that lasting 5 years. People will be wishing they voted for PR.
I vote at every opportunity. What more do you want me to do, start an armed revolt? And I wasn't talking of allies in the sense of establishing some sort of left wing hegemony. That is my idea of dying and going to hell. I'm emphatically not of the left to put it politely. But so what. Each to their own. I can agree to differ, that's the point of democracy. But its democracy that's devolved and properly representative that I want to see, not a centralised partisan wrestle for control of the levers between ideological blocs with the majority of voters excluded from the process and the participants only prize being the chance to let the other side have a bit of what's coming to them. I got bored with that in the school playground and I'm sick of seeing it perpetuated through the constitution of my country. The UK doesn't work constitutionally and I can't see any of the schemes and stratagems currently hatching doing anything other than polarising and entrenching what is wrong already.
is that what camaroon means by "with out a strong economy you cant have..." i think the snp have made one or two negotiating gaffs of late.
The referendum was a snow job. It was purely run so that the English wouldn't squinny when the Scottish received yet more self-rule. The "No" voters all thought, "Thank Goat for that, at least the Union stays in one piece" rather than "Why are the Scottish getting all these special considerations?". It was a deal between Westminster and the SNP, and it worked out as hoped for both sides. Typical UK Government. Tell everyone, "Tomorrow you're going to all loses your houses". The next day, when the Government then says, "You keep your houses but the lending rate is going up", everyone breathes a sigh of relief instead of getting up in arms about the interest rate hike. They must think we are all stupid. And they'd be right. /rant
