i would read again - you are answering a post which doesn't contain any reference to religion yet you bring it up first and even use the 'r' word - not starting an argument here, just drawing your attention to a fact and I like facts.
I didn't bring up the idea of leaving the question of knowledge "in the hands of the gods". That brings religion into the debate. That is what got debated.
come on, hardly religious, more a turn of phrase in that context and besides you still weren't answering Andy's post when you wrote post 11 (as you claimed)
I didn't claim anything. I wrote post 10 in reply to Andy and post 11 in reply to Ducati Dad. The gist of the argument was that: It's hard to understand So you shouldn't try but leave it up to God. I don't agree with that viewpoint. So what's the problem?
I stand by post #805 and it isn't a problem for me - you were the first to directly refer to religion in this thread as far as I am concerned.
Well, sorry to say, you're both wrong. Why? What do you mean, "why"? Why does there have to be a "why"? Shut up.
Back on track then, here's something else to watch: BBC Radio 4 - A History of Ideas, Astronomer Carole Mundell on the Big Bang, The Big Bang
Excellent Antony. Although I'm a fan of Sam Harris, I have never heard of Dr Neil Degrasse Tyson. I get a huge amount of pleasure listening to people like him. I liked the 'What went wrong with Islam' video. Top Man!
He did a TV series called "Cosmos", was very entertaining and informative . Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Yes, DeGrasse Tyson did an update to the original Carl Sagan series Cosmos which was really interesting and worth a look if you can get it. He has caused quite a stir in the States because of his scientific stance but is not so well known this side of the pond.
I think this is a very healthy point of view. I was watching Professor Alice on the TV a while back and she made the comment that we may be the only intelligent life in the universe due to the big long list of coincidences, events and anomolies required to make life on earth the way it is. Eg the earth being bit by another planet, the result being a tilt in axis and the creation of the moon, both of which are significant for life on earth. Other stuff, like when water freezes, it freezes top down, when most other substances freeze bottom up. So I can see where people, including previously atheist scientist come to believe in God. And as you say, tolerance and understanding is always a good thing
