I got slaughtered for saying this before but just in case anyone missed it? 1) Sieze all assets,property,cars,businesses of any terrorist who is captured or killed. 2) same goes for ALL the terrorists direct family. 3) Deport to country of original origin as if they don't want to live here there's plenty who do
I do believe we need to be more honest about mass immigration that has led to very little integration There is a conversation to be had and we need our politicians to be more honest about the obvious threat and they need to stop burying the truth in favour of political correctness.
But let's be 100% honest for a minute - in this world of political correctness it's just not going to happen is it? It's going to run and run until all of a sudden we end up with a full on right wing power with a fighting chance of being elected.Then the shit will hit the fan like it has with Trump in the States! Nobody thought he would get in power - I did and that's why I drew a nice lump off Corals
I would hate to think we would return to the old 60's and 70's ignorant days of no irish and no blacks and simply replace that with no muslims. Islam in general has a problem with western ways and freedoms but that doesn't mean every muslim does. The question is how do we get more migrant familes/individuals to still maintain their heritage in a way that still see's the maxim integration? Perhaps we have gone too far in the other direction when it comes to multiculturalism but I personally feel we do have more good if not integrated muslims, but do need to crack down on those organisations within the U.K. that seek to brainwash young muslim children such as sharia schools and such offices of inequality such as sharia courts etc. Remember, the terrorists goal is to divide us, and as many British muslims will be as pissed at this than those who will rejoice in it.
I fully agree with your comments but just listening to Lbc news - OB and the security services pulled this clown a few years ago and he's been on the radar for a fair time.Seems we have to wait for these "idealists" to get pissed up or coked off their canisters before we can do anything? Otherwise they play the race card
I stopped in local "rough pub" for a lunchtime pint earlier and witnessed 1st hand moronic mentality.A seek guy walked in for a quick Scottish and I heard one of the local brainless chavs give it the "another paki terrorist "usual shite. I turned round fast as and said he ain't a Pakistani he's a Seek and they are a proud warrior race you fukkin moron! Plus I grew u with this man and have known him over 50 years so I advise you strongly to get your sorry arse over here and beg his forgiveness cos he can proper have it! Hahaha - when I was a kid he bashed all the so called local hardnuts so I nicknamed him the "turbanator"
A great deal sadly. When you have large communities coming over and then settling, how the children that follow them is improved if more integration at the earliest possibility happens or suffers if they become isolated from the country they were born and raised in, because of those very same insular communities that emigrated over but never really left home and its ways, good and bad, come with them. The argument "but they were British born/indigenous born" fails when it is the same people, from the same religion and the same isolated communities that largely continue to fail to integrate. I do not see any Sikh, Bhuddist, Jews, Hindu's, Baptists, Lutherans, Greek Orthodox, Jehovahs etc etc, becoming suicide bombers and terrorist's in europe in modern times do you? Two questions we need to ask to help both sides, why do so many of such a restrictive faith, go to western countries that have equality of the sexes and gender and also freedoms that their religion does not allow Secondly Why is it of all the faiths, within the modern world, Islam spawns more terrorists than others? If you refuse to ask the awkward questions then all you do is shut others down trying to stop the problem, which most terrorists rely on.
As has been mentioned previously, where are you going to send this one back to? He was born in Britain. Imagine that, having to wait for people to commit an offence before we can arrest them, its POLITICAL CORRECTNESS GONE MAD I TELL YOU. Where's my Pitchfork?
I grew up in and around Aldershot in the seventies. I've seen the result of Terrorism in my town. I spent the thick end of ten years in the Infantry. I've had friends mortared by the IRA. My Brother did 3 tours of Afghan and 2 of Iraq, at no point did either of us feel it necessary start behaving like the Nazis and intern people without trial for looking a bit different or to punish the innocent for the crimes of their families. What have you done?
I don't think it is a conversation we can avoid anymore but we also have to be careful that it is not seen as talking "at them" but more it should be two equal sides having finally got to the end of their tether and want to stop the effin idiots. In a different way, how many muslims do you think are shitting their pants tonight, how many muslim families are worried about what might happen as a result of London? We do have to have that awkward chat but it has to be how do "we" sort the twats out.
He would have had dual nationality. No reason not to have revoked his British citizenship and sent him packing. Similarly there is no reason not the revoke the citizenship of those "UK citizens" committing criminal acts overseas on behalf of ISIS. Young or old, male or female, abandon them. Slam the door and let them face their fate. They have forfeited the right to a citizenship that should be contingent, not absolute. Germany is quite rightly about to deport two German-born ISIS supporters to their parental country. When they do a precedent will be set and a die cast, and not before time. Hopefully it will open a flood gate. I imagine they will have the influence to be able to adjust the ECHR to facilitate this, not something we would be able to do so the sooner we withdraw from this criminal's charter the better. Repatriation, not integration.
Seems he was British through and through and was born in Kent and called Adrian Elms before converting to Islam.
