Speed Limits Adjusted On Cameras Etc.

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by MaDProFF, Dec 15, 2014.


  1. what about if NASA were watching too recording information i mean obviously its not about how often this happens, but......you know what those dodgy geezers are like, would that constitute evidence too, is that a good might too? What would be the consequence?
     
  2. Get out your tinfoil hats ...
     
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  3. Most of europe do that just by breathing
     
  4. I thought you had to be doing at least 150 ?? but saying that bear in mind how technology has moved on the chance are that the gatso have a faster speed shutter now days so who wants to be the first to test it..... Step forward.
     
  5. If you were applying for a search warrant you would include the premises any out buildings and vehicles parked there on. This covers you for all eventualities including forcing entry into vehicles. However if you have stopped a vehicle and whilst speaking to driver/occupant suspect an offence has been committed you can seize any evidence relating to that offence.
     
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  6. So far all the tracking stuff in phones and gps units are not 100% calibrated so therefore not really submitable in a court of law as evidence.
    As to whether they can seize said item then yeah they can pretty much do it.
    And the point someone made about having to get a warrant to search premises is not one hundred percent, they can quote probable cause and enter without a valid warrant.
    Basically us poor normal people have got more chance of shitting in a toilet at Buck house than we have of beating the law.
    So lets put the cat amongst the pigeons here shall we.
    Why do most of us by a motorbike especially a nice shiny sports one its our love of speed not to go shopping down the high street at 30mph.
    So can we persuade the government to set one day aside every so often for us poor bikers so we can belt down the road full throttle ....... not a fecking chance.
     
  7. Anything can be submitted to a court of law as evidence. The other party can then challenge it on various grounds, such as that it is inadmissible, or irrelevant, or unreliable. The court can decide whether to take the evidence into account, and if so how much weight to give it. When it comes to speed, approved calibrated devices would obtain more weight than private uncalibrated devices.
     
  8. Thought that was pretty much what I ssid? If it's not an officially calibrated device it's accuracy is questionable
     
  9. Or,we can all just stick to the limits.........eek.
     
  10. That's crazy talk!
     
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  11. Yeah think that man is ready for the asylum, white jacket and padded cell
     
  12. Littleton village, near Ashford Middlesex is set to 30mph.
    Surrey police make no apology for it...30 means 30.
    My local vet has two tickets 2 weeks apart. One for 35 and the second one for 33.
    My barber was done for 34.
    Speed awareness course for each, except for the second vet one, 3 points and fine £100.
    Both are in their late 40's and it is their first ever speeding offences.
     
  13. When I was a very young and naughty boy (and literally 1\2 the man i am today) I was accused of doing a 148mph average from Petersfield to Portsmouth by plod at 5am on a Sunday morning. Needless to say it was Portsmouth plod that stopped me while Petersfield took another 10 mins to arrive. Using their vascar and watches the magic number was generated.
    To avoid prison and the painful greetings (being a good looking boy) I would have had from the other inmates, I hired a barrister. This turned out to be the best £800 motoring pounds I've spent.
    He correctly argued that although the vascar was home office approved, the officers watches and methodology was not. Note the judge was an astute man and allowed generous errors (all in my favour) and said I was doing at least 118mph average. I accepted a huge fine and six month ban.
    So although the actual ECU speed may not be accepted as gospel, it may be used to indicate fault or that you were exceeding the speed limit, so a careless, wreckless or danagerous driving charge may be upheld on this with other evidence.
     
  14. It's called taxation except that you don't have to fill in a form.
     
  15. Oh yeah you do, they send it through the post and ask was you the driver at such n such a time on such n such a day if you dont reply they nick you for not filling it in
     
  16. Quicker than a full tax return, though, eh?
     
  17. If you want an illustration of how good (or otherwise) the "evidence gatherers" are in this country, look up the case of Greg Taylor - a 19 year old who got knocked off his bike and killed in Paignton. The driver of the car that hit him, and then fled the scene, left him to die and tried to hide the evidence was already banned for a string of motoring offence. The car was uninsured and totally unroadworthy. The penalty for this ? A six month suspended sentance... Why ? Because, in the words of the local chief constable, of a "bungled" investigation and a failure to produce the evidence in court...
    Google "Bikers for Justice" and see more on this...
     
  18. Sometimes the sat nav in my toyota , not oem , goes a bit mad and says I am doing 780 mph or 650 mph just depends on how it feels . I get the overspeed warning , which is set at 80 mph , and the flashing lights to slow down . Wonder what the P.C. would think of that . 750 mph over the speed limit in a 30 in a toyota hilux .
     
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