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916 Varese Bikes - I Just Don't Get It - But I'm Coming Around

Discussion in '748 / 916 / 996 / 998' started by West Cork Paul, Jun 19, 2020.

  1. Gready people....
     
  2. One things for sure,they're in right colour.;)
     
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  3. Nothing yet!

    Have decided to keep hold. Have just bought a genuine lower fairing V-panel, and an original chain guard (I had a CF hugger) from eBay. On the look-out for a R/H lower fairing. What was the deal with the non-adjustable levers? Mine are 4-point span-adjustable only; is that not how it came from the factory? I'm sure the tank can be fixed by a dent specialist.

    I'll get it in my workshop and give it a good going-over. Possibly leave the belts etc. for now; no idea how long before I sell. If it turns out to be a couple of years, they'll probably need doing again. Pretty sure that's the right decision. Will put it up on here when I do decide to move it on though.
     
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  4. Make sure the fairing has the correct date ID on it - it could take a while to find!
     
  5. The 4 point adjustable levers were SP items, iirc.
    Stradas had standard silver levers with a brembo stamp on the lower side. Easy enough to pick up from ebay.
     
  6. Isn't the reason that the first of any model run is the most desirable is because they were closest to the designers idea? After that they get watered down a bit and get slightly fuzzy round the edges.
     
  7. I think the designer would have start with the 998R if he knew it from the start.
     
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  8. So I have this RH upper fairing in my garage. Assume it's September 1994?
    916fairing.jpg
     
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  9. Yes :):upyeah:
     
  10. Possibly. What puzzles me is why people rant on and pay premium about editions like the "Senna" - which was a paint job with Ohlins IIRC and the "Matrix" 998 which was just a paint job. I suppose Ducati was happy enough.
     
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  11. That Must be worth 5k....
     
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  12. Half price to forum members:laughing::laughing:
     
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  13. So £10k to punters?
     
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  14. I think it's more about money than design integrity.
    With interest rates set near zero, along with stocks and property looking volatile for a few years, combined with billions of people around the world still looking to park their excess income somewhere safe, 'collectables' of many types have become a very popular and profitable legitimate form of financial investing.

    The financial return on any 'collectable' depends on it's 'popularity and rarity' increasing rapidly, and if one things going to do that, it is if that 'collectable' is suddenly recognised as having some sort of unique 'provenance'.
    Provenance for classic vehicles has been defined as "A fully detailed, substantiated, chronological history of a particular automobile".
    And it's recently come to investors notice that the Varese bikes detailed and substantiated provenance history can be proven from factory records, VIN chronological numbers, VIN manufacturing plant codes and the different parts fitted to this relatively small number of the first of the 916's.

    To me it's this 'provenance' (recognised proof) of the Varese bikes by investors/collectors that is increasing the price.
     
    #94 Mike378, Jun 28, 2020
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  15. I don’t think it’s the fact they were produced in a different factory at all, it’s just a first year production - always worth more on collectible bikes :thinkingface:
    Date of manufacture can be determined anyway.
     
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  16. Wise choice Adetuono. Will be miles better with the minor little bits n pieces done, wether it’s just to look at or resale.
     
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  17. I think we'll have to wait and see over time if the early Bologna 916's start to fetch the same money as the Varese 916's.
     
  18. They won't as they are 1995 bikes - no need to wait :) A Z1a Kawasaki will never be worth as much as a first year Z1, A CB750K1 will never be worth as much as a first year K0.
     
  19. I don't know when 916 production was started back at Bologna, I had been told some 916 production started there as early as August 1994, so there may have been some 'cross over' production.

    Here's a early Varese with an asking price of £25,000 -
    https://www.classicdriver.com/en/bike/ducati/916/1994/685300
     
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  20. They made 2,663 well into the 1995 model year bikes with manufactured dates actually in 1995. A quick Google found 3 1995 Varese 916's for sale.
    A particular model years bikes are usually in production from September of the previous year, this would not make them that years model.
    As I say, the plant means nothing to the value - it's just a catch word people have been adding when advertising - just like the word 'Nero' in a way :eyes:
    Where's all the other Ducati's from that era, why are the not worth more due to being built at Cagiva?
     
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