I'm interested in these beans you speak of. Thanks for the Drama Queen...was that really required, given the content of the post?:Watching: Next you'll be going back over my old posts adding Nukes....nope that's someone else..:Hilarious::Hilarious::Hilarious:
Well just to pep things up a little, I'm thinking of putting Water Wetter in my 899 after getting a blister inside my thigh from Bangkok traffic jams. Almost unbearable to sit on the bloody thing.
I wrote this in 2016: "As far as I can discover, Evans' strategy is to replace the ordinary ethylene glycol, used mixed with water 60/40 in most antifreezes, with propylene glycol used neat, i.e. with no water. Please correct this if you know otherwise. Propylene glycol is non-toxic enough to be used in food products, which is good. It is more expensive, which is bad. It is less able to transfer heat than water, which is bad. It is less corrosive than water, which is good. Unfortunately Evans' website is long on vague, boastful waffle and short on real facts and figures. Some of the characteristics claimed for their product are also characteristics of ordinary ethylene glycol, which they omit to mention. All things considered, I would require more persuading before converting to their product." Additional points are: A. Since it has higher viscosity than ordinary coolant, it it likely to put more demands on pumps. B. Since it allows engines to run at higher temperatures, it is likely to stress valves and gaskets.
I'd be interested to hear from the guys that did use it, considering its years ago, must be some pretty solid feedback by now I would have thought? Picked up my bike a few weeks back, and still have a painful mark from it. Doing another 2000km run at the start of October for the Moto GP in Buriram, so really want some kind of heat relief on the bike.
I was the OP and have been reading the recent comments on the thread with interest. I haven't replied as there was nothing new being said, just opinions, I could see it all going round in circles again. Anyway, as you ask. Waterless coolant won't give you any heat relief and will not have the bike running cooler It just removes water from the system, so theoretically should inhibit corrosion. It should be kinder to head gaskets and your cooling system at high temperatures as there is minimal pressure in the system. I have it in a Desmosedici, 1098R, Hyperstrada, Vespa GTS300. I haven't put it in the Panigale R or 350LC yet, just because I haven'r got round to it. I've had no issues at all using it.
Did you see the guy on YouTube putting it in then going for a 10 mile run and measuring the results ? He got almost 10° difference from putting an entire bottle in, after only replacing the fluid in the top radiator. It was all done on live video, and it's just a YouTube video so doubt any fancy camera trickery. Certainly got my interest that's for sure. Anyway, I've ordered a bottle and will be putting it in before my ride.
You might want to read and understand what the thermostat in your cooling system does and how it controls the running temperature of the engine. These additives simply change the rate of energy release from the cooled parts of the engine into the coolant and then into the radiator matrix - hence away from the engine, they don't affect the running temp of the engine. For road use they have limited point bar the advantages mentioned in Rob's reply in post 54.
bit like being on the other end of you when someone asks which lithium battery they should be running on their bike. *poke with a stick..* *hard hat on* *sandbags ready* *INCOMING!!!*