Whats Faster

Discussion in 'Ducati General Discussion' started by Cream_Revenge, Oct 18, 2018.

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  2. 1198

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  1. The tri options are 6 seconds off the supersports around Brands GP.

    All this talk of 675’s had got me hankering again, such awesome bikes and great for embarrassing the bigger boys.
     
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  2. new street triple R is no slouch either
     
  3. Not the superstock I don’t think. Remember, the supersports are lighter and have 140 rwhp area power. Not a like for like comparison.
     
  4. BSB Snetterton 300 stocks were 1’55 and 899 1’54 for race 1. Supersport 1’50
     
  5. Other thing I’d add is the 899 will feel like you need more power (sound familiar ;) ) a lot because you are using more of it. Whereas the bigger bike will feel like it’s going to kill you so has too much power.
     
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  6. There's a test in Performance bikes on the Street Triple R around Donnington with comparisons lap times of all major superbikes including the 959, Pani 1299 and V4...
     
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  7. Ah yes, no T9 in it Liz :)
     
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  8. I really do fancy a trackbike
    675R
    899
    959

    Triumph comes with onlins front and back,but the 765rs is meant to be a weapon on track aswell
     
  9. This months?
     
  10. They need a better rider then
     
  11. Ime STAY AWAY FROM 675!!!!!!!!!!

    Although I have a rebuilt motor for when yours let’s go :upyeah:
     
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  12. Every month - they just add new bike tested to the list...
     
  13. They use Rutter for all the tests, he's average isn't he :thinkingface:
     
  14. There's a massive mis-understanding of the different capacity bikes these days and how fast they are. Fast Bikes magazine is a terrible comparison since they seem to have a pub figures attitude about all their tests and just prefer the big bikes even on small twisty tracks that would be much better suited to a 600 (or 899). It's not all about the lap times, it's about what works well and is fun in my opinion. A 1000 might be a second or two quicker around a track but is that better when the 600 is faster around every single corner and the 1000 only makes up the time on the main straight?

    Cartegena for example is much better on a 600 than a 1000. Snetterton and Silverstone are two of the very small number of UK tracks that definitely favour a 1000 but most of the others you can go almost as quick on a 600 if you had the skills to run the corner speed. Thats the nub of the matter though - do you learn to ride faster in the corners where it's more risky and scary or do you make up the lap times in the straights where it's safe but 'cheating' by using the advantage of the power. You could argue that a 1000 is better for the average rider simply because it knocks him up to fast group speeds because of the power on the straight but thats why there's so many people on 1000 getting in the way of fast riders on 600 in the fast groups!
     
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  15. I'm switching from 600 to 1000 next year haha - dont know what that says about me....!
     
  16. I'd love to track a fully blown supersport bike !! Be ace I reckon.
     
  17. My 899 is a fab track bike. The only time I've wanted more power is when I'm stuck behind a slow rider on a faster bike.
     
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  18. The great thing about 600 is that so much of it depends on the rider rather than the sorcery in the bike. My goal this year was to get quicker laptimes on the Yamaha R6 than I did on the Panigale 1199x. Unfortunately crashes and the gearbox being on it's way out meant that I didn't manage that but I did manage to just about match my laptimes at most tracks and I reckon I could actually go quicker now. I always feel a little too tall and lanky on a 600 and it contributes to me high-siding a lot since I'm so used to moving my weight around too much on the bigger bikes so I'm going back to a 1000 for next year but I'm hoping what I have learnt on the 600 will make me faster on the 1000. The great thing about the 899/959 is that they are a big bigger chassis than the 600 so better for taller riders.
     
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  19. So Rutter is as fast on a street triple, no fairing and 115 hp, as he is on a full 200hp Superbike ? Fuck me, he should ride one at macau or TT, clearly a top 3 in SBK class easy

    #bullshittiming
     
  20. Keh? Where did you get that from... :dizzy:

    #sunstroke
     
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