Why It Has To Be Leather

Discussion in 'Clothing, Gadgets & Equipment' started by Jon Wright, Jul 26, 2025 at 7:13 PM.

  1. So you are saying that in your professional life you are able to limit yourself only to draw conclusions from direct interpolation of the fully documented and analysed previous outcomes of the precise scenario you are interested in?
    I don’t know what industry you are in, but pretty much everyone else working with relatively complex scenarios, as RTA outcomes certainly are, has to use extrapolation from appropriately weighted overlays of relevant primary data, drawing inferences, building models and testing the theories that were suggested by the available data, adding that new outcome data to refine the model going forward, and aligning with known real world results, to end up with a working hypothesis of how every variation of the event is going to play out in the real world, and only then we can draw inferences on how effective any mitigation is likely to be.
    Expressed very basically, at primary assessment level of the forces used in the actual CE tests vs the forces experienced in a falling human mass, and those required to break humans, without considering the many other complicators, the physical forces applied for the CE level 1 & 2 tests for impact absorption and abrasion resistance are orders of magnitude lower than the actual forces experienced by a real motorcyclist in a real crash, and the forces transmitted through the armour are similarly, many times higher that the force necessary to fracture major human bones.
    That certainly does not make this type of PPE irrelevant or entirely ineffective, but useful for users to be clear that motorcycling introduces a risk not effectively mitigated by this level of PPE. Better equipment can offer more protection, more aligned with the frailty of the human body, but we also have to accept that risks remain, which we have all implicitly accepted by doing what we love in riding bikes.
    Everyone is free to wear /not wear; trust / not trust as they so choose, but these are simple physical facts. Belief has nothing to do with it.
     
  2. ^^ Im just back from the village bar. More confused than ever.
     
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  3. I'm not, i'm not relying on a bit of fancy padding to save me from an injury other than soft tissue bruising.

    Just as I wouldn't rely on a crash helmet to save me in all scenarios.
     
  4. I am struggling to understand how this level of safety quibling manages to emerge from people who are willing to ride rather speedy motorcycles on public roads.
     
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  5. I have always been under the impression that the big advantage hide has over textile is that it sheds layers as it slides making it less lightly to grab and spin the rider which then in turn breaks stuff.
     
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