Will There Be Justice This Time???

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by 749ducaticonvert, Dec 30, 2015.

  1. I gather that the right to bring private prosecution in the USA was repealed in 1981.

    Well there you go!
     
  2. No, we should packet in, otherwise they'll be carton off everyone!
     
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  3. Hahaha - the word is that Supermax MAX has got himself some protection on his wing from a couple of South London heavies - money talks even in the jug
     
  4. Does it really matter what I called it? I'm sure you and every one else got the gist of what I meant. It has been reported in the media here that part of an outcome of some sort of legal action against Bill Cosby he had to admit to some of his misdeeds.
     
  5. Thanks for this. It is now clear that Bill Cosby has never been prosecuted before now, and thus has never been found guilty of, nor pleaded guilty to, anything. The report that he had been prosecuted was in fact completely mistaken.

    Does it really matter if someone posts on this forum that a person has been prosecuted when that is not true? Well no, I have to agree that ultimately it doesn't really matter. The pedant in me prefers accuracy though.
     
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  6. Objection!
     
  7. Overruled !
     
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  8. I lost all faith in the judicial system when a solicitor (for the other side) told me "it's up to the judge to decide what the truth is". No, you overpaid dickhead, it isn't. The truth is, and will always be, the truth; what happened, happened. It is up to the judge to make a judgement based on the facts presented.
    The entire legal profession, as far as I can tell, works on the basis of what they can get away with presenting in court and, more importantly, what they can prevent the other side from presenting. The truth really has nothing to do with it... And the more you can afford to pay your lawyers the more difficult they will make it for the other side. Hence this case will, no doubt, drag on for months...
     
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  9. I find it very strange that the current case for libor had the judge start by saying to the jury "I don't want you to judge this case on wether what they did was illegal, but on wether it was moral".

    Excuse me but isn't this a court of LAW?!?
     
  10. The solicitor should have said, "It's up to the judge to decide where the truth lies".
    So because some solicitor once expressed himself clumsily in a private conversation, you "lost all faith in the judicial system", did you? Doesn't that deserve a "Drama Queen"?
     
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  11. Pete - it wasn't just that one sentance; it was his whole attitude - arrogant and self-important. It illustrated to me, and not for the first time, that solicitors really don't care about the truth. All they care about is winning their case. The truth, the facts, what actually happened, or what is morally right is of no interest or concern to them what-so-ever... "Drama Queen" ? Maybe... Cynical ? Definitely !
    Maybe you could say that he expressed himself clumisly. I actually don't believe that - I think he knew, and meant, exactly what he said. Be that as it may "The pedant in me prefers accuracy though"...
     
  12. There was a Roman judge, Pontius Pilate, who is reported to have said: "What is truth?" [Quid est veritas?]

    In any kind of legal dispute, different versions of the truth are asserted by different people. Whenever a judge decides what the truth is, inevitably somebody disagrees with that judgment. And they often go away complaining that they have lost faith in the judicial system.
     
  13. "It is easier to perceive error than to find truth, for the former lies on the surface and is easily seen, while the latter lies in the depth, where few are willing to search for it."
    Johan Wolfgang Goethe

    "The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie -- deliberate, contrived, and dishonest -- but the myth -- persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic."
    John F Kennedy

    "Truth is the property of no individual but is the treasure of all men."
    Ralph Waldo Emerson

    "Whoever undertakes to set himself up as judge in the field of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the Gods."
    Einstein

    "The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it and ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is."
    Whinston S Churchill

    "The truth has a million faces, but there is only one truth."
    Hermann Hesse
     
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