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For Sale Ducati 1098 Troy Bayliss Ltd Edition

Discussion in 'Ducati Bikes For Sale' started by Ducaian, Jul 6, 2020.

  1. @990Glen asked a genuine question that wasn’t answered. We all know it’s frustrating trying to sell something. Many people who comment on sales threads aren’t interested in buying but someone reading might be. Take the opportunity to promote your bike in the replies you make rather than being dismissive of the commentator.
     
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  2. Not trying to be clever fella, just imparting info to aid with your sale. If you have all the stuff, you need to say so as this will remove this as a stumbling block for interested parties. As a Bayliss owner myself, I watch the market for them quite keenly. They are really quite a marmite bike as far as Rs go,
    and generally they are harder to shift than a red one as many folks hate the livery. A combo of livery and stuff to your taste but not others could make it
    much more of a problem sale.
    Several unmolested bikes have moved through or relating to this site in the last couple of years, and the prices achieved were roughly where you are at now, and while not necessarily bought by collectors the general ethos was the bikes needed to be as original as poss with being ltd runs. GLWS.
     
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  3. Thank you , I am fully aware that “un molested” bikes are what a potential collector is interested in. I’m afraid I have “molested” my bike with the very best parts money can buy. All the parts are significant upgrades to to original parts fitted to the bike. I have mostly sold the original parts. If someone was genuinely wanting to buy my bike and they wanted to replace the parts back to the standard parts then I’m sure they could easily remove and sell the high quality race spec parts and purchase replacement standard inferior parts and still have money in the difference between prices.
    Here’s just one illustrative example for you to get a better understanding. The Titanuim NCR Corse sprocket carrier. That could be removed and sold on eBay for £300 easily, A standard sprocket carrier could be purchased for £60, there are lots of them on eBay, Leaving the new owner £240 in his pocket. Here’s another example , the pair of GP4RX calipers if sold on eBay for HALF PRICE would fetch £700. The original calipers can be bought on eBay for 300. That’s in the pocket. So all this talk of molestation is absolute and utter rubbish.
    Obviously the engine performance improvements performed by JHP are irreversible. So it’s academic , like I explained in an earlier post, if a collector wants a bike that is completely bog standard Bayliss, then this is not a bike for a purist collector
     
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  4. If the Bayliss sells , it sells , if it doesn’t then I honestly wouldn’t be bothered. It took me 6 months to find the right buyer for my 998S Bayliss when I sold that bike. I got exactly the money I was looking for, a lot more than totally standard 998S Bayliss sell for normally. The guy who bought that bike was thrilled to buy it with all the upgraded parts fitted.

    this was my 998S Bayliss
    https://www.ducatiforum.co.uk/threads/2002-ducati-998s-troy-bayliss-ltd-edition-for-sale.74897/
     
    #24 Ducaian, Nov 27, 2020
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  6. It takes a big man to recognise he was wrong and stand up and apologise - well done :upyeah:.

    Sorry to read of your troubles dude. :(
     
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  7. Hi Paul, I used to live in Ireland there’s a great Ducati group that meets regular in Howth.

    Check out Ducati & Italian Motorcycle Owners (Ireland) on Meetup
    https://meetu.ps/c/2vgkL/vpQwm/a
     
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  8. Nice post Chris.
     
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  9. I know of them well, via Facebook, however, I’m in the far SW corner of the country, about 5 hrs ride away from Howth. Still, it’s more than beautiful enough here on the Atlantic to make up for it :upyeah::D
     
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  10. Here are some photos of the bike exactly how it is just now. Please note the switch gear on the handle bars will be going back to the original Ducati switch gear.
    I was going to wash and detail the bike but it’s way too cold

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  11. More photos. Note the carbon fiber mirrors are exactly the same as the original plastic mirrors.

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  12. Hardly the molested track hack that I think a few people assumed the bike was huh
     
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  14. It’s certainly been an up and down journey of ownership in terms or Reliability. It’s quite amusing that I am a chartered mechanical engineer in the field of equipment reliability ! I think I’ve just about experienced all of the failures that seem to be potentially weak points on the Bayliss. Here’s a few I have suffered you should look out for if you have a 1098R :
    1. If it has a Ducati quick shifter fitted my advice would be to get it removed ASAP. It causes premature wear of the gearbox which eventually causes the bike to jump out of gear under hard acceleration. The 1098R was never designed to take a quick shifter , the standard gearbox is on a knife edge of design in terms of the power and torque that goes through it. Nova manufacture a much more robust gearbox if you are everunfortunate enough to need a replacement.
    2. Keep a very close eye on the clutch slave cylinder. They are prone to failure. An indicator of a clutch slave wearing out is that the hydraulic clutch fluid gets a lot of air in it and gear changes become difficult. Don’t bother fitting a DucatiPerformance clutch slave (if you can find one) they are just as crap. I found the Oberon aftermarket clutch slave is by far the best and virtually eliminates the issue. Clutch slave premature failure can also be caused by a seized clutch rod bearing in the pressure plate. The clutch rod spins and causes the internals of the clutch slave to spin also. This causes the o-rings in the clutch slave to wear.
    3. The original 1098R radiator has a known weakness. The top mounting brackets are not robust enough. This can cause the radiator tearand leak, normally it’s the top left hand bracket.This issue was fixed by Ducati on the later 1198. The top brackets of the radiator are beefed up. I’m not sure if this issue was a ‘recall’ by Ducati or if they only replace failed radiators.
    4. The original spring fitted to the gear selector assembly inside the gear box was not strong enough. Ducati beefed up the spring design. Again not sure if this is a ‘recall’ fix.
    5. You are already aware of the potential fuel tank expansion issue (mine has been ok up to now). I know a lot of owners have changed the fuel tank out for the 1198 Corse fuel tank which alloy and larger capacity (they get them painted in the Bayliss colours) and the tanks holds more fuel. Be ready to experience very low miles per gallon. As you know the bike was neverdesigned with economy in mind.
    6. If the fairing is mint , consider having a 3M clear gloss wrap fitted. I had mine done and it certainly helps prevent stone chips.
    7. If it hasn’t got a tracker fitted , I would highly recommend the bike trac system.
    8. Watch out for the speedo. The “glass” is plastic which cracks in direct sunlight. It can also get damaged by brake or clutch fluid from the reservoirs.

    Back in 2009 when the 1098R bikes were manufactured I’m afraid Ducati were still in their dark days of well known poor reliability. I know enough other 1098R owners and they have shared identical experiences with their bikes. Any one who purchases a standard 1098R needs to understand there are still some issues that need to be addressed unfortunately. But if done correctly , then it is possible to have a fantastic bike.
     
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  15. Updated photos now uploaded
     
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  16. 1198 tank is also plastic.
     
  17. This is not an issue on 2007-> bikes which have an anti-rotation pin on the pushrod.
     
  18. Wheres that pin located ?
     
  19. Which bikes had the aluminum tank ? I might be getting mixed up with the larger capacity tanks and assuming they were aluminum ?
     
  20. On the slave end with a matching recess on the slave

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